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Guy, just a heads up of what's been happening in the UK the past few days, where we are currently getting our first big batch of Model 3s for pickup. Not saying all this stuff will happen to you, but might be useful to know:

1. VINs have been re-assigned multiple times here. (I've had 3 different VINs appear in my source code) so even if you are given one it may not be your final one and it could be re-assigned at any time prior to delivery. There seems to be no logic to it. They admit mistakes are being made but it doesn't seem to get any better.

2. A few people have been given a delivery date and then that's been cancelled or changed at the last moment. Some were given a delivery window (i.e. Aug 7-Aug 20) then they'g suddenly get a delivery date outside that window. Then the date would be cancelled completely. You cannot make any plans based on what Tesla are telling you and be 100% sure it won't change. People have booked flights to get to the pickup location only for the date to change at the last moment.

3. A lot of people are on vacation this time of year and quite a few had pickup dates given to them when they were out of the country. At first, Tesla were being very difficult about this and just cancelling the pickup and telling the customer they would have to wait for the next boat load to arrive. Then someone pointed out the wording of the terms which gives the customer the right to pickup within 7 days of the date and Tesla backed down on that one. So read the terms carefully and assert your rights!

4. The terms also state that only the registered owner can pick the car up. Tesla have relaxed that rule here in the last few days and allowed a nominated person to pick the car up for them. This is probably because they need to get the cars out of their warehouses to make room for the next deliveries, so you might want to ask about this if you can't get there to pick up yourself.

5. Because it's been so busy on pickup days, Tesla have been telling customers they only have 10 minutes to hand over the car. It takes longer than 10 minutes to inspect a car properly for defects, so ignore that and take as long as you need. It's your right to do so and it will be much easier to get any defects corrected afterwards if you can point them out to the Tesla rep. when you are there.

I hope this helps some of you and I hope you all get your cars soon! It's been a very long wait for some of us.
 
Ship happens. Aug 9 7pm Sydney arrival. 6 Brotherson Dock
Here’s Cap Capricorn too-
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If you say no, the car gets reassigned to someone else, and you get the next available one that fits with your delivery date.
Wait what?? So are they going to just give us a specific random date and time they want us to go and pick up the car and if that’s not suitable they’ll give our car away to someone else??? Surely not! That sounds insane. What’s even more concerning is that the pick up date they give you is highly likely to be cancelled as the great post above says and I have also read in many forum posts.

My work doesn’t exactly allow me to not turn up with a short notice and I would prefer to pick up on a weekend. For a $100k vehicle I would expect some flexibility in the appointment times just like every other luxury car I’ve ever purchased. We’re not exactly buying a carton of milk and lining up at Aldi for the Saturday specials.
 
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Sorry for not being more specific in my earlier response to your post.

The PWC boffins have actually run a cost benefit analysis on various forms of regulatory models that might be implemented for autonomous cars in Australia. The full report is here:

https://www.ntc.gov.au/Media/Reports/(22F3F874-69F0-92FE-EEBD-C199F9D0697D).pdf

Just some numbers to highlights from the report:
Over the last decade there were similar analysis done about NBN and about raising speed limits on major highways and many other things. Government has ignored all of them and gone the other way to the dismay and anger of people and no one has been held responsible, so I would not hold my breath on this either.
 
Wait what?? So are they going to just give us a specific random date and time they want us to go and pick up the car and if that’s not suitable they’ll give our car away to someone else??? Surely not! That sounds insane. What’s even more concerning is that the pick up date they give you is highly likely to be cancelled as the great post above says and I have also read in many forum posts.

My work doesn’t exactly allow me to not turn up with a short notice and I would prefer to pick up on a weekend. For a $100k vehicle I would expect some flexibility in the appointment times just like every other luxury car I’ve ever purchased. We’re not exactly buying a carton of milk and lining up at Aldi for the Saturday specials.
No, the wording states that you have 7 days to pickup your car. If you can't get it during that time, then they will give that car to the next.

We need to remember here that the car they have assigned us isn't OUR car until you sign the acceptance, it's just a car that has been allocated for us to look at and accept if we want it.
 
Wait what?? So are they going to just give us a specific random date and time they want us to go and pick up the car and if that’s not suitable they’ll give our car away to someone else??? Surely not! That sounds insane. What’s even more concerning is that the pick up date they give you is highly likely to be cancelled as the great post above says and I have also read in many forum posts.

My work doesn’t exactly allow me to not turn up with a short notice and I would prefer to pick up on a weekend. For a $100k vehicle I would expect some flexibility in the appointment times just like every other luxury car I’ve ever purchased. We’re not exactly buying a carton of milk and lining up at Aldi for the Saturday specials.


I think they will give us all multiple times, I highly doubt they would say be there at 9am Monday or you have to wait another 4 weeks. I’m pretty sure majority of the people buying these don’t have the availability of being on Newstart allowance
 
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Wait what?? So are they going to just give us a specific random date and time they want us to go and pick up the car and if that’s not suitable they’ll give our car away to someone else??? Surely not! That sounds insane. What’s even more concerning is that the pick up date they give you is highly likely to be cancelled as the great post above says and I have also read in many forum posts.

My work doesn’t exactly allow me to not turn up with a short notice and I would prefer to pick up on a weekend. For a $100k vehicle I would expect some flexibility in the appointment times just like every other luxury car I’ve ever purchased. We’re not exactly buying a carton of milk and lining up at Aldi for the Saturday specials.

Reddit has a lot of similar stories for delivery experiences. Rich rebuilds has a nightmare story on youtube for a used model x he bought. If you can be massively flexible, and not change anything, seems to be the most painless way to go. Easier said than done for many.
 
A little birdie told me that us Aussies will experience the account change in our Tesla accounts early next week and I’m of the impression that what ever ship has our babies on board will be offloading for the entire country at the one port, or atleast only over the east. So the plan for SA customers like me is for the car to be sent straight to our house (more than likely with no Tesla rep). Also looks like a very late aug to early sep start to deliveries.
None of that is consistant with previous tesla activities. Unless you have heard otherwise from your tesla delivery specialist, you will need to trundle down to a dusty yard in port adelaide to collect your shiny new dust covered tesla. Only your tesla delivery specialist knows what will happen.
 
I think they will give us all multiple times, I highly doubt they would say be there at 9am Monday or you have to wait another 4 weeks. I’m pretty sure majority of the people buying these don’t have the availability of being on Newstart allowance

I honestly hope for all your sakes, they learn from the shambles we are still putting up with in the UK, but if they do it the same way you will be given ONE date and time for pick up via an email. You can then try and get hold of them to change it. Some have been on hold for 2 hours to get through to them on the phone. Some haven't been able to get through at all. My last email and SMS reply to them was never answered. This is what it's like here. I hope it's much, much better for you!
 
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Ok guys and girls, I was editing the footage from the track day on Monday and found something awesome. After cutting a couple of hot laps, I had a chance to come to a complete top, then plant the foot and test 0-100km/h times.

It was only when I dropped a timecode on it in Premiere that I seen the time was just 3.15s less than the advertised 3.4s - https://techau.com.au/australian-tesla-model-3-performance-pulls-amazing-3-15s-0-100km-hr-time/

When I get some more time, I'll side-by-side this with the 0-100km/h I did in the Model S P90D a few years back. Should serve as a decent comparison. Both are bloody quick.
 
Not sure how others are financing their Model 3 purchases, but we renegotiated our home loan and tonight we signed off on the change. We're dropping the interest rate from 3.99% to 3.24% which is actually a net reduction for repayments, despite the larger loan size. Still expect to contribute additional payments to reduce the overall term of the loan.

Very exciting and can't wait for the car to arrive. My guess is last week of August.
 
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Ok guys and girls, I was editing the footage from the track day on Monday and found something awesome. After cutting a couple of hot laps, I had a chance to come to a complete top, then plant the foot and test 0-100km/h times.

It was only when I dropped a timecode on it in Premiere that I seen the time was just 3.15s less than the advertised 3.4s - https://techau.com.au/australian-tesla-model-3-performance-pulls-amazing-3-15s-0-100km-hr-time/

When I get some more time, I'll side-by-side this with the 0-100km/h I did in the Model S P90D a few years back. Should serve as a decent comparison. Both are bloody quick.

Awesome. Better than Uncle Bjorn
 
OK, so we assume the technology works in 2020.

Are you aware of the 2020 target to have the regulatory framework in place throughout Australia that has been set by the National Transport Commission?

They are also targeting 2020 - at least according to their website:

NTC - National Transport Commission

To quote from the site:

"In November 2016, Australian transport ministers agreed to a phased reform program so that conditionally automated vehicles can operate safely and legally on our roads before 2020, and highly and fully automated vehicles from 2020."

Let's take a step back.

If the USA allows autonomous vehicles, the USA will reap all the benefits that come with autonomous driving. I am convinced that autonomous vehicles can only be EVs, so you do not need to import petrol or fight Middle East wars to protect your oil supply, and your national trade balance can improve by not importing petrol. Your health budget pressures will ease from lower levels of air pollution. Transport costs drop by - roughly - an order of magnitude.

You are saying the Australian government - or let's say the Australian tax payer - will just be content to twiddle their thumbs and wait another 5 years to work out the regulations for autonomous driving?

I could be wrong, but I do not think so.

So, with the regulator already on the record of stating a 2020 target date for autonomous vehicles and some pretty compelling (imho) financial arguments in favour of autonomous vehicles, I can for the life of me not see how Australia can not allow autonomous vehicles much sooner than this. To me it just does not make any sense.

... but then again, to quote Albert Einstein:

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."


As for auto-charging - of all the technical problems associated with autonomous driving, I can not imagine that this will be a deal-breaker for the implementation of robot-taxis. The technology for auto-charging could be implemented on the charger end rather than the vehicle end of things. Maybe charging occurs at centralised facilities where humans do cabin inspections/cleaning, manage charging, etc.
Its 4 months to 2020, and tesla are going to release features incrementally by their own admission. Thats on the order page. So far this year we have recieved chess.....other games.....and updates to fix things tesla broke because their software engineers dont check their work properly. By the end of 2020 australia will not have setup the regulatory framework and tesla will not have released full unconditional self driving. My best guess is that by then we’ll have 4 more new games and the ability to recognise traffic lights, providing your hands are on the wheel and your foot is on the brake. There will also be the eternal promise that Elon is testing it in his personal car and it will be released soon, but only to those that buy a version 4 hardware car.
 
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Wait what?? So are they going to just give us a specific random date and time they want us to go and pick up the car and if that’s not suitable they’ll give our car away to someone else??? Surely not! That sounds insane. What’s even more concerning is that the pick up date they give you is highly likely to be cancelled as the great post above says and I have also read in many forum posts.

My work doesn’t exactly allow me to not turn up with a short notice and I would prefer to pick up on a weekend. For a $100k vehicle I would expect some flexibility in the appointment times just like every other luxury car I’ve ever purchased. We’re not exactly buying a carton of milk and lining up at Aldi for the Saturday specials.

After waiting 3 years for surgery would you try and negotiate the operation schedule? Tesla staff have a lot of cars to deliver in a short time, best you give them the all the help possible. This is not some massive car corporation sucking every dollar out of you wallet, they're doing something that everyone said wasn't possible and no one else had the courage to attempt.
 
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I feel you brother - the waiting-pain runs deep in my veins too...

Looks like Elon is upping the ante on FSD:

Tesla plans to increase its Full Self-Driving price again on August 16 - Electrek

It has also been reported, that further FSD price hikes are coming:

Elon Musk is raising the price of Tesla’s ‘full self-driving’ feature by another $1,000 – TechCrunch

... as mentioned once before, i am fairly relaxed about Tesla reducing prices of the Model 3 in future - even if it happens the day after I get my car. However, I am one of those "falling for the dream" and while I have not ordered FSD at this stage, I am thinking of getting it in future. I am losing a bit of sleep over FSD price increases in the meantime...
Seriously its one of Elons demand triggers to generate cashflow, along with the old free supercharging chestnut.
Tesla make a great car. My real concern is that 50,000 aussies will start a class action for an unfulfilled promise. That will be very bad for the brand and for the future of car electrification in this country.
So why doesnt tesla simply say.....we are working on FSD and it should be ready in our dreams next year. Once its ready everyone gets free access for 24 hours. If you like it the price and order page will appear on your screen. If you dont orderr your car reverts back as it was. Surely that is the ethical way to do business?
 
Most sensible comment I've read all day ...

After waiting 3 years for surgery would you try and negotiate the operation schedule? Tesla staff have a lot of cars to deliver in a short time, best you give them the all the help possible. This is not some massive car corporation sucking every dollar out of you wallet, they're doing something that everyone said wasn't possible and no one else had the courage to attempt.
 
We would all love for Model 3 to have a cheaper price point so it is a mass market option. But let's face it. We are a small market for Tesla. Unlike California and the incentives it offers Tesla (5th largest economy in the world), our government cannot pull it's finger out of it's a**e and offer any incentives to manufacturers or to customers who adopt EV's. Instead, we'd rather give companies like Adani all the necessary approvals to mine more fossil fuels.

On another note, this waiting game has to end soon for us all in Australia, right? Not sleeping well and it's playing havoc with my nervous system. Do we all need to collectively barrage @elonmusk on Twitter and force his hand? :)
Elon is clever, but all the smarts in the world cant make a boat bobbing around in the ocean at its peak speed of around 35kmh go faster.....although maybe he could have spacex land a rocket on it for you and use the ships crane to make said rocket horizontal.
 
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