willow I don’t use my turn signal if I drift over the line. In my case ELDA screams at me only if there is a painted line on the side of the road (2 lane).
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Tesla Software 2019.16.3
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bsilva
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I too want to be able to turn off EDLA and not have to disable it each time. My reason is that when I have a bike rack on the back of the car, if EDLA is enabled, then I get constant warning messages about lane departure not working. Yes, I understand the rack interferes with the sensors for lane departure; I don't want to see the message come up constantly. The only way to get it to stop is to disable EDLA. Which means every time I park, I have to re-disable it. A pain.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
So you say ELDA does this, because you have LDA permanently turned off, correct? Or is there another reason you know this is ELDA and not LDA?
I assume it is because you get the "red", not the "blue", pictured in the Tesla blog post? It's hard to know how much to read into that.
More Advanced Safety for Tesla Owners
That’s a great question Alan. I’m going to check that. I’m going out a bit later and check it. I think LDA is off. The steering wheel vibrate mode right?
SammichLover
Banned
I’m “house bound” today. Going out tomorrow, I’ll brave LDA (wELDA disabled) and try get some answers for you on sound with it. Although you can just turn LDA off, I get the impression you’d rather not.
ELDA definitely sounds an error beep and pops an error notice, same style as pressing brake & accelerator pedals simultaneously. I initially though I might have accidentally bumped the brake w/left foot on the first ELDA trigger, until I read the error text.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Thank you for checking.
LDA is an extension of the prior LDW (see above blog post). In the picture, they show the warning message and a blue line being crossed. Previously, LDW was vibrate steering wheel only - it did NOT beep. It's impossible to know from the blog post whether LDA now has beeping as well as vibrating. But I do know that LDW has been converted from a toggle to a slider, with three options, off, warn, and assist. Anyway, that's what I would like to know - does LDA beep when in warn mode? In general I would like a complete description of the behavior of both features, but no one seems to know.
It seems quite likely that ELDA beeps, at least, because people have been talking about audible alarms. Which is also pretty bad as it seems to trigger if you cross a solid white line, or possibly even a white line that is not solid. But that is a secondary question. The blog post shows a red line being crossed with a different warning message being displayed.
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AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Thank you! That would be sweet.
I definitely would prefer to leave my LDA on, I think that vibrating the wheel is an excellent safety feature - and I'm even curious about the assist feature. But it's not worth the beeping, if they have added that somehow.
The ELDA sensitivity and beeping - yeah, seems pretty certain it beeps - for that, I definitely will have to wait for reduced sensitivity before upgrading if I really want to avoid those - though they are presumably less common.
So, I guess depending on your results, I will figure out how I want to proceed.
Still allows a significant number of people to miss out on 2019.16.X, and still leaves out a further ~15% unexplained non-updates from @Garlan Garner original question. I've got some more theories, but he asked for no speculation
No speculation eh? Well hes come to the wrong place - needs to ask Tesla directly.
Bill Foster
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Snow Drift
[Off-Road Assist] Activated
According to Tesla, you should be ok as only ELDA will make noise and that requires a potential collision (just like Blind Spot Chime):
LDA
- Can be deactivated by selecting Off. Controls > Autopilot > LDA & select one: [OFF/ Warn/ Assist]
- If it detects your vehicle unintentionally starting to drift out of the driving lane without a turn signal engaged.
- Assist - corrective steering back into driving lane (25-90mph). Designated lane is highlighted in blue. (no sound mentioned)
- Warn - steering wheel vibrates when unintended departure is detected. (this is already existed, it is very light, no sound)
- Off - Disable both steering assistance (Assist) and vibration (Warn) when lane departure detected.
- Always activated when car is turned on. Can be deactivated for a single drive. Controls > Autopilot > ELDA
- Steers your vehicle back into the driving lane if a potential collision is detected.
- When steering intervention occurs
- Designated lane line is highlighted in red
- Warning prompt on the touchscreen
- Chime will sound
My gut reaction was that they (decisionmakers, maybe just Elon) view ELDA as another feature like Collision Avoidance -- default safety feature of the vehicle, with temporary disable only (to support scenarios like track use).
Happens indoors in the garage ... no sunlight coming through anywhere.
Also see it at night ... no midnight sun where I live.
That explanation makes zero sense.
SammichLover
Banned
LOL
Of course that's silly what you are saying, not sure why you'd take it that way.
I meant a graphical representation of it that an artist drew with pixels (or it is rendered via a graphics library primitive) meant to evoke looking down at the sun shining on the vehicle. Not the actual sun.
Same as the red tail lights on that avatar aren't the actual tail lights, just some pixel flipping to represent it that may or may not actually match what's going on with the taillights.
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jjh1234
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From what I've read, that spot on the avatar is just simulating the look of sun glare on the roof. It's not due to any actual sun glare on the roof or display in the car.
LOL
Of course that's silly what you are saying, not sure why you'd take it that way.
I meant a graphical representation of it that an artist drew with pixels (or it is rendered via a graphics library primitive) meant to evoke looking down at the sun shining on the vehicle. Not the actual sun.
Same as the red tail lights on that avatar aren't the actual tail lights, just some pixel flipping to represent it that may or may not actually match what's going on with the taillights.
Hah ... I misread (you think?)
This is an even more bizarre explanation. Why is the "sun shining" at night? Or am I supposed to assume it is the moon at night? Just plain weird.
Atleast the tail lights represent reality.
SammichLover
Banned
I’ve never bothered to check, not cared enough, but have you checked the screen Day/Night setting? If it follows what Auto detects?
In other words turn off your garage light & see what happens.
No idea if that’s it, just a guess.I suspect they don’t always. I haven’t gotten help to %100 confirm but I think there’s an intermittent bug.
I certainly wouldn't trust them to detect & display a broken taillight (but maybe they would?), certainly not display one obscured by mud.
Regarding "the white spot", if you watch the car representation when it transitions from "big" to (older) "small" you'll see the "reflection" move.
I recommend doing this when somebody else is driving, for safety reasons.
I recommend doing this when somebody else is driving, for safety reasons.
willow_hiller
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I see more immediately after firmware updates, and they slowly go back to normal. I think there is some sort of adjustment period.
