This update is the one that gives the US the FSD beta request button. It' won't be coming to Australia for quite a while, if ever.
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ARMARM
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Not yet, I was under the impression it was only activated when you request the FSD beta so you can be judged to be a suitable candidate, which of course, is currently only for US owners.
If it looks at the right metrics in the right way then this could be useful to get evidence based insurance premiums.
Immediate problems i see already:
- hard braking: how many G's constitutes hard braking? If you ask my wife, it's every time I touch the brake pedal. If you ask me, it's when I see the VSC lights come on. Also, this might have been caused by the person in front doing something stupid. Why am I being punished for that? Even with 3s following distance, if the car in front slams the brakes full, you better do the same.
- unsafe following needs quantified: How many lead seconds are required to be considered safe? And does it take being on autopilot into account? My autopilot on the lowest setting follows at 1.2 seconds. That is not enough for a human driver, but plenty for an autopilot. Does it know the difference?
- forced autopilot disengagement: I don't even know what that means. AP stuffs up on occasion at which point I have to override it either with brake or steering wheel, or both. is that a forced disengagement? Or do they mean those cases where it flashes the "take manual control immediately" image because it got itself into a state it doesn't know what to do? So I'm getting punished for their inadequate software?
Immediate problems i see already:
- hard braking: how many G's constitutes hard braking? If you ask my wife, it's every time I touch the brake pedal. If you ask me, it's when I see the VSC lights come on. Also, this might have been caused by the person in front doing something stupid. Why am I being punished for that? Even with 3s following distance, if the car in front slams the brakes full, you better do the same.
- unsafe following needs quantified: How many lead seconds are required to be considered safe? And does it take being on autopilot into account? My autopilot on the lowest setting follows at 1.2 seconds. That is not enough for a human driver, but plenty for an autopilot. Does it know the difference?
- forced autopilot disengagement: I don't even know what that means. AP stuffs up on occasion at which point I have to override it either with brake or steering wheel, or both. is that a forced disengagement? Or do they mean those cases where it flashes the "take manual control immediately" image because it got itself into a state it doesn't know what to do? So I'm getting punished for their inadequate software?
Looking a bit further into the metrics hard braking is over 0.3G and dropping speed by more than 10km/h. Autopilot disengagement is when the car has given the red warning to hold the wheel enough so that it temporarily locks you out of autopilot, not when you force the wheel and autopilot disengages
I agree the definitions are very important. Can’t remember the distance one off the top of my head
Also, driver distraction should be part of the safety score. It's a well established fact from several independent studies that show it doesn't matter whether you speak on a phone held in hand or a phone in a BT hands-free arrangement. The mind is distracted, braking distance hugely impacted, and general attention to traffic diminished.
The car knows when you're on the phone. Factor that in!
A LOT of discussion needs to be held about this before this should see the light of day.
The car knows when you're on the phone. Factor that in!
A LOT of discussion needs to be held about this before this should see the light of day.
It's the latest for you until you get an update.
You can sit on the delivery versions (odd 2nd number for a while)
I reckon the car recovery brakes garden than this on AP coming up behind stopped traffic.
I suspect this will be rolled out in the next update we see in Aus, but at the moment it actually doesn't mean anything other than a 'game' score
Priit
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If forced AP disconnect and AP jail is the metric for driver being distracted, then I have never been distracted in my car. Though I would argue that I have been distracted plenty, however I get out of distractions and pay attention when car starts with audible alerts to wiggle steering. However that cannot be counted as distraction metrics, as there are plenty of occasions where car displays alert to wiggle steering, however regardless of the amount of wiggling the car does not acknowledge that I am wiggling it, so sometimes the audible alarm starts and then my wiggling of steering gets strong enough to pop it out of the auto-steering (that usually happens if the road is a bit rough so the steering gets input from road side bumps also), then I just re engage the auto steering with the stalk and we are back to normal.
I got that on the weekend but I'm really looking forward to 2021.36.x and the ability to change charge current remotely.
I’m more concerned about the QA and testing department, or the fact there isnt one. I wonder if anyone actually tries this in a real car before release
I have tested this today, and I can confirm that the UMC supplied in 2019 does work at 10A / 15A with the new tails (part numbers 1463091-10-C and 1463068-10-C) and the firmware update.
Priit
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So, 3 days passed and they pushed the same update again to my car. This time it took 15 minutes and it installed with no issues. Was pretty much the fastest update the car has had so far
Will have to do some driving to see if anything is changed, but so far seems very similar to last update.
Too bad they don't sell those tails separately without buying the full UMC kit with them.
They don't sell them from the store but you may be able to get them as spare parts - the only problem is that they have a bunch of the older tails still in stock.
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