Bet TSLA
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Reasonable disagreement. I mentioned Fresno only in case you had missed it. But it seems pretty unambiguous now -- there's a decent chance Fresno will be operational in 2015!
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Reasonable disagreement. I mentioned Fresno only in case you had missed it. But it seems pretty unambiguous now -- there's a decent chance Fresno will be operational in 2015!
cpa
Active Member
Based upon my conversation with the construction crew, their jobs will be complete some time before Christmas--maybe around the 12th-15th, but do not hold me to this estimate.
However, there will be that very minor detail of supplying electricity to the stalls. No telling when the monolithic PG&E will decide to install the transformer. Didn't we wait about six weeks last January for PG&E to install the transformer at Manteca?
BrokerDon
Active Member
San Clemente SC SEVERELY overloaded Saturday 4:30 PM
We were returning from San Diego to Orange County and pulled into the San Clemente SC yesterday since my estimated remaining battery to my home was only 2% because of an unexpected side trip. When we pulled in EVERY Supercharger slot was full with 4 cars waiting... and nowhere for us to park & wait for a spot.
This is the first time I've pulled into a SC where every stall was full so I was quite surprised. Sure would have been nice if the Tesla Nav had told us every stall was full before we pulled off the freeway to the SC. Fortunately I was able to get home with 2% remaining by turning on Range Mode and reducing my freeway speed significantly... Down to 50 mph on the last big hill on the 73 freeway by the Newport Coast toll booth.
Sure seems like the San Clemente SC station needs more SC stations AND parking spaces for a SC queue.
Anybody else have this happen here? If so what day & time?
We were returning from San Diego to Orange County and pulled into the San Clemente SC yesterday since my estimated remaining battery to my home was only 2% because of an unexpected side trip. When we pulled in EVERY Supercharger slot was full with 4 cars waiting... and nowhere for us to park & wait for a spot.
This is the first time I've pulled into a SC where every stall was full so I was quite surprised. Sure would have been nice if the Tesla Nav had told us every stall was full before we pulled off the freeway to the SC. Fortunately I was able to get home with 2% remaining by turning on Range Mode and reducing my freeway speed significantly... Down to 50 mph on the last big hill on the 73 freeway by the Newport Coast toll booth.
Sure seems like the San Clemente SC station needs more SC stations AND parking spaces for a SC queue.
Anybody else have this happen here? If so what day & time?
Bet you had to wait quite a while. It may not make you feel much better, but there has not been an empty SpC slot ever in Alaska, Yukon, 99 percent of BC or Alberta; Saskatchewan....we've got about two million square miles where our wait is one hellacious lot longer than yours....just something to throw a little perspective.
Bet TSLA
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Well, to put the perspective in perspective, what's relevant is the length of major roads rather than the area of the state. I imagine a total of maybe 8-10 superchargers would cover all of Alaska quite nicely. And given the number of Teslas in Alaska, starting with two stalls per location would about cover it. What do you think?
Andyw2100
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I think AudobonB's point is that your 8-10 superchargers to cover all of Alaska is 8-10 superchargers more than they have now.
Updated (again) "Coming Soon" and "2015" Superchargers
Tesla updated the 2015 North American supercharger map again today, and unlike the map available only on November 18th this one actually makes sense. The "2015" tab shows 14 of the "Coming Soon" superchargers which Tesla thinks will actually open this year. Some of these are not yet confirmed under construction, so if anyone passes through any of the following cities please stop at the site and report back to TMC: Ukiah CA, Colorado Springs CO, Victoria TX, Lexington VA, Tannersville PA, Port Hope ON (site unknown). Besides Port Hope, the other Coming Soon sites whose locations are not yet known are Jackson MS, Champaign IL, Terre Haute IN, DC Suburbs MD, Erie PA, Harrisburg PA, and Hampton Bays NY.
Following are additional sites not on the Coming Soon or 2015 lists:
Tesla updated the 2015 North American supercharger map again today, and unlike the map available only on November 18th this one actually makes sense. The "2015" tab shows 14 of the "Coming Soon" superchargers which Tesla thinks will actually open this year. Some of these are not yet confirmed under construction, so if anyone passes through any of the following cities please stop at the site and report back to TMC: Ukiah CA, Colorado Springs CO, Victoria TX, Lexington VA, Tannersville PA, Port Hope ON (site unknown). Besides Port Hope, the other Coming Soon sites whose locations are not yet known are Jackson MS, Champaign IL, Terre Haute IN, DC Suburbs MD, Erie PA, Harrisburg PA, and Hampton Bays NY.
| Location | Site Known? | Status |
| Burbank, CA (on 2015 map) | yes | awaiting transformer installation |
| Buttonwillow, CA | yes | in permitting |
| Crescent City, CA | yes | in permitting |
| Eureka, CA | yes | in permitting |
| Fresno, CA | yes | in permitting |
| Mammoth Lakes, CA | yes | in permitting |
| Napa, CA (on 2015 map) | yes | under construction |
| Ukiah, CA (on 2015 map) | yes | in permitting |
| Beatty, NV (on 2015 map) | yes | awaiting transformer / hookup |
| Colorado Springs, CO (on 2015 map) | yes | in permitting |
| Lindale, TX | yes | in design or permitting |
| Victoria, TX (on 2015 map) | yes | in permitting or under construction |
| Slidell, LA | yes | waiting for other construction |
| Jackson, MS | no | unknown |
| Champaign, IL | no | unknown |
| Terre Haute, IN | no | unknown |
| Cadillac, MI | yes | operational |
| Louisville, KY (on 2015 map) | yes | in permitting or under construction |
| Asheville, NC (on 2015 map) | yes | under construction |
| Plantation, FL (on 2015 map) | yes | awaiting transformer |
| Lexington, VA (on 2015 map) | yes | permit issued |
| Wytheville, VA | yes | permit issued |
| D.C. Suburbs, MD | no | unknown |
| Erie, PA | no | unknown |
| Harrisburg, PA | no | unknown |
| South Whitehall, PA | yes | in permitting |
| Tannersville, PA (on 2015 map) | yes | in permitting |
| Hampton Bays, NY | no | unknown |
| Augusta, ME (on 2015 map) | yes | under construction |
| Kelowna, BC (on 2015 map) | yes | awaiting transformer / hookup |
| Port Hope, ON (on 2015 map) | no | unknown |
| Fremont (Kato Road), CA | yes | under construction |
| Placerville, CA | yes | unknown |
| Santa Barbara, CA | yes | in permitting |
| Temecula, CA | no | unknown |
| Bowling Green, KY | no | in permitting |
| Tonopah, NV | yes | in site agreement negotiations |
| Catoosa, OK | yes | site agreement completed |
| Rivière-du-Loup, QC | yes | in permitting |
Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
Thanks for the great summary! For those who want to look at the high res originals of these maps, they are at:
Update as of about a week ago: Fresno, CA really is under construction, there is at least one picture of Tesla crates, etc. over in the thread.
sorry if I am asking questions that have already been asked elsewhere, but now that we are starting to make supercharger trips I am interested in what people think are best practices: is it better to charge in two superchargers along a route for ten minutes each, or to try and "skip" one supercharger and charge for 20 minutes in the second supercharger? in my experience skipping one sometimes requires driving slower to make sure one can make it. One example of this is along I35, I am currently sitting at the Denton SC going north. Should I stop at Ardmore or try to make it to Oklahoma City? Any useful rules of thumb for this? Is the route planner reliable? on the way down it said "you have enough charge to make it to your next stop" but the weather was bad and it was too close, we had to slow down to make sure we made it.
thanks!
thanks!
There are two things that influence time. Getting off the freeway and back on will usually cost you a little bit of time. If it's close by it might be just 5 min. If it's really off, it can add 20 min (like in St George). The other thing to consider is state of charge. The higher the state of charge, the slower the Supercharger. I wrote about the effect of it here How to save a lot of time on long trips
Trying to charge all the way and skipping a Supercharger usually ends up taking longer than stopping and charging in between.
mklcolvin
#P-5058
There's a Collin Street Bakery in Lindale, TX. Since the SC in Corsicana is located at the Collin Street Bakery there, that's my first guess on the Lindale location...
TXjak
Owner/Investor/Advocate
Generally speaking, your car will charge faster the lower the SOC is when you start charging. A strategy I've seen stated somewhere else is to arrive at a SC with about 10% SOC, or whatever buffer you feel comfortable with, and only charge enough to arrive at the next SC with the same SOC. The "Trip" tab on the Energy display will show you how well you are tracking the route planner's estimated energy use and what SOC it thinks you'll arrive with. If you find that you are falling below the graph at any time, you should slow down or maybe draft that 18-wheeler that is going fast enough for you. (I don't have TACC or Autopilot hardware, but I'll bet it does a good job of drafting.)
Benz
Active Member
Update including November 28th, 2015:
North America
2012: 0 + 0 + 2 + 7 = 9
2013: 0 + 2 + 11 + 28 = 41
2014: 32 + 16 + 19 + 35 = 102
2015: 42 + 19 + 22 + 18 = 101
Total: 9 + 41 + 102 + 101 = 253
Europe
2013: 0 + 0 + 6 + 8 = 14
2014: 0 + 10 + 44 + 54 = 108
2015: 19 + 19 + 32 + 11 = 81
Total: 14 + 108 + 81 = 203
Asia Pacific (Currently: China, Japan, Australia)
2014: 0 + 3 + 16 + 39 = 58
2015: 15 + 5 + 15 + 12 = 47
Total: 58 + 47 = 105
Global total: 253 + 203 + 105 = 561
2012 Global total: 9 + 0 + 0 = 9
2013 Global total: 41 + 14 + 0 = 55
2014 Global total: 102 + 108 + 58 = 268
2015 Global total so far: 101 + 81 + 47 = 229
Q1 2013 total: 0 + 0 + 0 = 0
Q2 2013 total: 2 + 0 + 0 = 2
Q3 2013 total: 11 + 6 + 0 = 17
Q4 2013 total: 28 + 8 + 0 = 36
Q1 2014 total: 32 + 0 + 0 = 32
Q2 2014 total: 16 + 10 + 3 = 29
Q3 2014 total: 19 + 44 + 16 = 79
Q4 2014 total: 35 + 54 + 39 = 128
H1 2014: 32 + 29 = 61
H2 2014: 79 + 128 = 207
Q1 2015 total: 42 + 19 + 15 = 76
Q2 2015 total: 19 + 19 + 5 = 43
Q3 2015 total: 22 + 32 + 15 = 69 (in 92 days)
Q4 2015 (so far): 18 + 11 + 12 = 41 (in 59 days)
H1 2015: 76 + 43 = 119 (in 181 days)
H2 2015 (so far): 40 + 43 + 27 = 110 (in 151 days)
"229 new live Supercharger stations in 332 days (in 2015). The average is more than 0.6897 per day (in 2015)". That looks like the going average these days. The average in 2014 was 0.7342 (= 268/365). And that still is extraordinary progress, although the average in 2015 (so far) is lower than the average in 2014.
A little birdie has whispered in the ear of someone who posts here at TMC. The information provided by Cottonwood and his little birdie friend has been very reliable.
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