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I mean, sure. I kept my Tacoma for 10 years until some dumbass kid rear ended and totaled it.
I don't expect to keep my Tesla for 10 years, but I wonder if freaking out about the 50k mile warranty is really warranted.
Trust me, I've thought about it. Maybe those rims will grow on me
I'll give myself a few more days. My carvana offer is valid for almost two more weeks. Waiting on them right now anyway.
While I love my Tesla, I wish I had done the research and not wasted the money on FSD. I say wasted because I'm still pending beta, and while the highway mode is nice, it's not worth $12K more over the auto steer that ships with the Tesla.
Correct — my apologies: Lane centering/steering and traffic adjusted cruise control. To note, the same functionality of my 3 year old Hyundai (albeit without Tesla's odd speed limit limitations).
No. AP ships with all cars. It is TACC+lane keeping drivers assist.
EAP is a $6,000 option that gives you the ability to do enable auto lane change with NoA, Summon, Smart Summon, and Autopark...basically lane change is the only valuable addition there.
FSD gives you what EAP does plus, Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control, basically can stop at lights/stop signs. Driving on City Streets is coming soon to the regular FSD stack, but you have the option to enter FSD Beta, if you qualify and are accepted, which allows the car to "autosteer on city streets".
And yes, I've purchased FSD 3 times and would do it again. I wouldn't buy a Tesla without it.
Thanks. I've only ever driven with FSD so I went off (bad) memory. Quick question: with AP and no automatic lane change, I assume it also won't take on-ramps and exits by itself? You're right as far as EAP is concerned. The auto lane change is the only value there for sure. I believe I've auto-parked twice in two years, and used summon once as a gimmick to freak out some friends.
AP will not take an exit ramp nor will it change lanes, even by activating the turn signal. You have to disengage AP to make any turn and then re-engage.
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Yes. Definitely some issues on the current version, but still amazing when it's not glitching. If you lower your expectations a bit, and anticipate some of the hiccups, it's a lot easier to live with. In fact, I think the entire commute on FSD lowers my BP and keeps me calmer. The alternative is driving myself in rage-mode in todays sh!t-show traffic.
In my case it is not hypothetical. I've ordered two Teslas this year, paid $10K for FSD on the first, and did not order FSD on the second.
Our Y went on order just days before the 10K to 12K FSD price increase. Somehow we got a huge delivery date pull-in (from July to March) so we've been driving it quite a while. But we tended to get mid-90s for Safety Score, don't drive all that much, and seldom on Navigate on Autopilot, so did not actually get FSD Beta download until mid-June when the big expansion of users happened.
FSD Beta is fascinating, but the city street behavior is really annoying (very jerky) even when it is (usually) quite safe. I run it nearly all the time, but it is out of curiosity, and hoping to help the development, not because it is a better way to get around town.
So for our model 3, currently with delivery forecast in October or November, we have not yet put FSD on the order. If Tesla raises the price above $12K before the end of the year, we'll be even less likely to add it.
Our Y went on order just days before the 10K to 12K FSD price increase. Somehow we got a huge delivery date pull-in (from July to March) so we've been driving it quite a while. But we tended to get mid-90s for Safety Score, don't drive all that much, and seldom on Navigate on Autopilot, so did not actually get FSD Beta download until mid-June when the big expansion of users happened.
FSD Beta is fascinating, but the city street behavior is really annoying (very jerky) even when it is (usually) quite safe. I run it nearly all the time, but it is out of curiosity, and hoping to help the development, not because it is a better way to get around town.
So for our model 3, currently with delivery forecast in October or November, we have not yet put FSD on the order. If Tesla raises the price above $12K before the end of the year, we'll be even less likely to add it.
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