Not exactly. There are two categories of Superchargers: Urban and Travel. The urban ones are for those who don't have charging facilities at home (they charge at a slower rate), and the Travel ones are for trips (of course both could be used in emergencies). It's polite to use them as designated.
I remember this as well. I thought it came a bit after I bought mine (delivery 5 years ago today, btw!) so maybe it’s more in the 2015 timeframe. It might have even been when they first introduced pay to charge.
Actually I thought @whitex's suggestion was kind of brilliant. It hasn't been true for a long time that every Model X or S has unlimited supercharging for life, only older ones. So it's not like a buyer on the used market can assume that. If Tesla were to offer me the deal @whitex suggested, where I get to transfer my FUSC to my (hypothetical) new car, but it becomes non-transferable as a result, it would provide value to me (I get to keep FUSC for many additional years) and to Tesla (they don't have that FUSC liability on their books forever). As you say, it reduces the resale value of my old car; I just have to decide for myself if the reduction in value is worth it. I can't see how an opt-in deal could possibly "piss off a majority of their customers", though. If you don't like it, don't opt in.
I tend to agree with this, on the other hand for me it would really have to be right next door. I have a SC a few miles from me and after using it once or twice for local charging I quickly concluded that the value of the "free" charge doesn't offset the inconvenience, compared to home
I pay approx 10 cents per KWh at home, I get about 3 miles per KWh. To save $16K I would have to drive 480,000 miles on superchargers. That is quiet a lot of miles! If only 60% are driven on superchargers, that's 800,000 miles I'd have to put on the car for me to save $16K in charging. Even if you use supercharger rates at $0.30, that's 266,666 miles on the car (60% of which on supercharger) before it's worth that much!
^THAT, and even if just next door, having to go unplug it to avoid idle charges might not be worth it. My wife has NEVER been to a supercharger, or any outside charger ever, and she sometimes drives more than 200 miles in a day (she will charge for few hours mid day at home). I even suggested it that on days when she uses 160 miles in the morning, she could charge for free at a supercharger nearby while having a starbucks, but it's not worth her time. Charging at home allows her to comfortably drive around in an S75D, while charging it to 90% (227 rated miles) and on the long driving days she charges mid day for 3-4 hrs (at 48A). I also only ever used superchargers for long distance travel, not worth my time to local supercharge either.
We are at .067kWh it would take 717,488 to save $16k by using SuperChargers. I am not certain even my S100D is going to make it 717,488 miles...and that would only be if every electron came from a SuperCharger. I am always a little skeptical of statements like that unless the owner is paying $x.x for kWh and has driven well over a million miles. hmmmmmm
Indeed I am. Jackson EMC. EV/Rate is a wonderful thing..... my monthly levelized rate plan is $377 for two Tesla’s one driven 3,000+ miles a month and one ~1,200 a month and our house which is 13,500sqf
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Ok, I just went through your contract: That is an awesome rate for night charging, I wish BCHydro would do something like that. However, If you were required to charge between 3 and 8 pm Monday through Friday, you would be paying at a rate higher than the supercharger rate: $0.343/kWh!
(That is one big-ass house by the way
I have my A/C units start cooling to 65 at 1:00 on weekdays during the months that the 3pm-8pm rate is in affect, June - September, and cut off from 3:00 to 8:00 and back on to cool to 65 in the bedrooms again for sleeping.
This. For those of us who Supercharge on road trips the value of FUSC is the cumulative cost of each Supercharging session if we had to pay for it. It is difficult to calculate in states and provinces that bill by the minute, as opposed to billing by kWh. One also needs to deduct the energy obtained at home, or from destination charging, from the road trip total.
Mostly correct, but bear in mind that when you are on an extended road trip, many of the overnight stops will be at destination chargers of some description (e.g. perhaps not Tesla destination chargers), reducing the percentage of Supercharging needed.
Anything over 400 miles is a long day of driving for me. But I’ve seen your posts and know you can put down the mileage (at low consumption, too).
