willow_hiller
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It's a controversial decision for Tesla to make, but I think it shows they are committed to Autopilot as a safety mechanism. Regulators might actually start to see Autopilot as a tool to make roads safer.
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2020.12.5.6: Traffic Light & Stop Sign Control
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It's a controversial decision for Tesla to make, but I think it shows they are committed to Autopilot as a safety mechanism. Regulators might actually start to see Autopilot as a tool to make roads safer.
WilliamG
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Seems like a fair assumption. Makes me wonder why Tesla keeps adding stuff to EAP when they should be pushing FSD.
diamond.g
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hmm I haven’t tried this version yet, but I know the previous version didn’t limit speed when using TACC.
Garlan Garner
Banned
The early access version of this update is over - per Tesla.
Now that it's over......
It takes some getting used to. I find myself occasionally forgetting to press the accelerator to keep the car going through stop lights when they are green.
I also find myself being more aware of intersections when allowing the car to drive itself through intersections compared to when I would drive through them myself.
The car does a fantastic job of stopping before the RED crosswalk line when its first to the light.
Although the car does well stopping at stop signs in my area, there are few stop signs where I live where the lanes are properly marked enough to engage AP.
One thing I would improve on is the acceleration from a stop at either a light or a stop sign. It accelerates very slowly.
Another thing is that the car is strictly limited to the speed limit on streets. I find myself in danger of getting run over from behind on certain roads. I found myself trying to find out the speed limit on some streets where I now know - I've been speeding all of my life.
Lastly....I find that the car brakes much more abruptly than I do when coming up to a light or behind another car when braking. Or now that I think about it.....maybe the problem is that the car starts braking a lot later than I do.
Lastly again....I find that the car uses brakes when braking whereas I have gotten 100% used to 1 pedal driving using regen 100% of the time. I hardly ever hit the brake. I feel the brake pedal moving down when I rest my shoeless foot against the brake.
Lastly again and again. I love the car coming to a stop at a light or stop sign when coming off of an off ramp from the expressway. That's really cool.
I remember the current version of EAP or AP or FSD was getting complaints all over the place in the beginning, but now after 3 BILLION miles - there are not nearly as many complaints about it.
With that said...I believe that Its gonna take a while for all of the complaints about this feature to die down also.
It takes some getting used to, but I understand what its doing.
It doesn't drive like I do.....but its certainly a step in the right direction.
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C141medic
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Just got 2020.12.6 as well.
I’m glad I started this thread to get informed about how the feature works ahead of time, before trying it for myself
I’m glad I started this thread to get informed about how the feature works ahead of time, before trying it for myself
C141medic
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MTL_HABS1909
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This doesn’t make sense. I have Enhanced Autopilot on my 2018 Model 3 with hardware 2. My wife has a 2019 Model 3 that came with base Autopilot included and she’s also on hardware 2. Therefore there are no cars with Enhanced Autopilot on hardware 3. Those cars would have had to upgrade to FSD to get hardware 3.
Yes that or Tesla is snow jobbing everyone about what the system can do. I'm not debating that it appears to tell the color of the light. Let's be real though and admit they are nowhere near being able to do this correctly instead of saying they are just being cautious.
QUOTE="diplomat33, post: 4639233, member: 63496"]Our cars can recognize the color of a traffic light. If you pay attention to the FSD visualization, you can see that it does indeed show the color of the light. But I suspect that Tesla is still working on getting it to 100% reliability. So to play it safe, this feature neuters that part and stops the car for every light by default and forces the driver to confirm when the light is green. That way, Tesla can use the driver inputs to further train the NN to make the feature more reliable.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE="diplomat33, post: 4639233, member: 63496"]Our cars can recognize the color of a traffic light. If you pay attention to the FSD visualization, you can see that it does indeed show the color of the light. But I suspect that Tesla is still working on getting it to 100% reliability. So to play it safe, this feature neuters that part and stops the car for every light by default and forces the driver to confirm when the light is green. That way, Tesla can use the driver inputs to further train the NN to make the feature more reliable.[/QUOTE]
MTL_HABS1909
Active Member
They are using our input data and comparing it to what the car would do. They then use this data to train the neural net. So yes, the car does know what is going on most of the time, but needs to be trained in all the different types of situations that could arise. No different then NOA when it was first pushed out. This is why Tesla’s lead in real world data will crush anyone trying to compete against them.
Garlan Garner
Banned
If you update to 12.6 now then the car will only drive at the posted speed limit ON STREETS with AP on. Not on the highway.
Of course nothing changes when you are driving on your own.
Highway AP = no change.
Iain
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Garlan Garner
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I've never had a failure with the car NOT recognizing the color of the lights.
Garlan Garner
Banned
I thought Autopilot has been driving at the posted speed limits on local streets before 12.6.
Is there anything different about 12.6 that Tesla have changed?
Autopilot will let you go 5 miles over the posted speed limit it sounds like this week eliminate that extra 5 mph
I haven’t checked it, but I believe this is only true if you also choose to enable the beta stop sign and traffic light feature as well.
I expect that cars with 12.6 with that feature turned off will behave the same as cars with earlier firmware.
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