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2024 Model 3 Performance Announced - Discussion thread post announcement
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DanCar
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Why?
Changing subjects: I hope they bring back the stealth performance model. I liked it in the past because the different wheels brought about a smoother ride.
Zcd1
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Because Tesla recently changed the way they calculate their EPA range. Should more closely align with reality going forward…
DanCar
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Jeremy3292
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There is nothing different in the cars that would cause the range to be that drastically different, other than the rim size. But even then the new 20” on the P variant are now forged (lighter) with aero caps. If you driver it harder the range will decrease sure, but the difference in listed range is just EPA test cycles. Real world they won’t be that far apart. If you take those aero covers off the 18” rims I bet you the range is damn near identical. (This was true in the prior M3P as well)
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ucmndd
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Zcd1
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I expect that your search engine works just as well as mine, but:
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-lowers-range-estimates-us-regulators-tighten-vehicle-test-rules-2024-01-09/#:~:text=Some%20of%20Tesla's%20downward%20revisions,version%20of%20the%20luxury%20SUV.
Black306
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Agreed. If I didn’t have an M3P, I’d be tempted to buy the new one. But since I have one, there isn’t enough in the new one to spend ~$20k to upgrade. I’d rather spend that kind of difference on a Cyberbeast.
DanCar
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Thanks. I didn't know what to search for and curious what you searched for to find that.
I found this similar article:
Tesla adjusts ranges across lineup due to new EPA rule
Tesla has adjusted its EPA estimated ranges across most of its lineup due to a new EPA rule that should...
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BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
You're probably better off doing this, I suspect Tesla is going to lowball current M3P owners.
BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
Tesla proudly trumpets 9.23s @155mph quarter mile times for the Model S Plaid.
There's a reason they're being silent about the new M3P's quarter-mile times and it has to be one of two things. Either the M3P is too good for roughly half the price of a Model S Plaid and would cannibalize its sales even more, or it's an underwhelming, mid 11-sec range. (To think we live in a time when mid-11-second quarter mile would be considered underwhelming.)
There's a reason they're being silent about the new M3P's quarter-mile times and it has to be one of two things. Either the M3P is too good for roughly half the price of a Model S Plaid and would cannibalize its sales even more, or it's an underwhelming, mid 11-sec range. (To think we live in a time when mid-11-second quarter mile would be considered underwhelming.)
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
So this is substantiated then? 510hp in US and nowhere else?Well then fk that. Another reason to leave this fkd up country now…just keep adding to the list on top of prices out of control, weather garbage, taxes insane, broken healthcare. Not the same Canada I grew up in.
And now 460hp vs 500+? lol. Just another reason to move to big brother.
Time to move to TX.
Can’t wait to see some reviews on 0-60, 0-100, 100-150 mph on the 510hp and the 460hp version.
Seems odd they would ship 2 diff Perf 3’s which have diff higher end Perf and power specs. Given 2.9 is the same for both batteries. I guess it’s higher end power that will fall off quicker in the 460hp version.
I was set to buy in Canada but …after seeing this…a bit bummed. Holding off for now until I figure out how to import a U.S. made.
They were already, since Q2/2022 but not being honest about the differences, or perhaps more generously the differences were not apparent from the stats that were provided at the time, so they didn't need to shout about it.
Nobody in Canada should buy this and it might let Tesla know that we want the real thing.
BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
0-60 MPH in 2.9s is not the same as 0-100 km/hr (62.1 MPH) in 3.1s.
At 2.9s 0-60, you're accelerating by 1 MPH every 0.04833 seconds.
At 3.1s 0-62.1, you're accelerating by 1 MPH every 0.04992 seconds, roughly 3.28% slower, which seems to match up with the LG vs Panasonic battery differences.
Extrapolate that through the entire quarter mile: If the Panasonic-equipped car traps 125* MPH, the LG-equipped car would trap 120.9 MPH. (125 x 0.9672 = 120.9)
* I have no proof of a 125 MPH trap speed, just used that number as an example. And I know the acceleration isn't linear, but the numbers do illustrate what a 3.28% difference can make when all other things are equal.
At 2.9s 0-60, you're accelerating by 1 MPH every 0.04833 seconds.
At 3.1s 0-62.1, you're accelerating by 1 MPH every 0.04992 seconds, roughly 3.28% slower, which seems to match up with the LG vs Panasonic battery differences.
Extrapolate that through the entire quarter mile: If the Panasonic-equipped car traps 125* MPH, the LG-equipped car would trap 120.9 MPH. (125 x 0.9672 = 120.9)
* I have no proof of a 125 MPH trap speed, just used that number as an example. And I know the acceleration isn't linear, but the numbers do illustrate what a 3.28% difference can make when all other things are equal.
Midnightsun
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Here is the Canadian version along with other interesting info including ride hailing app tease.
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On the new Model 3 Performance I wish they offered optional 19’’ Nova Wheels with All-Season Tires. 19" wheels are more comfortable to drive on the street with less risk of rim damage if you hit a pot hole, and I want to be able to drive in freezing winter temperatures without having to swap summer tires.
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