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Autopilot is getting worse, not better.
Nope. Because if you read my post it’s ONLY ONLY ONLY happened since vision only. For the last SEVEN years of previous ownership it’s never been an issue.
Posts like this are really not helpful because if people drove in a reckless manner they are hardly likely to advertise that fact and they would know the reason why they are getting the alerts and wouldn't post that up would they? - so when someone posts that they are experiencing lots of collision alerts then you need to look a bit deeper.
I know - and I suspect @Fursty Ferret knows that the introduction of a vision only system has resulted in changes to how the cars technology handles everyday situations and it does seem that not all people experience the same problems, but in a thread that's titled "Autopilot is getting worse" then its inviting people to document their issues.
I know exactly what @Pagemakers is saying because I experience it too, I've had my M3P for just over two and a half years, I have a section of road near me that always produces the alert - but only for the last couple of months whereas for over two years the collision alert never sounded at that same spot, I know how to defeat the warning - by lightly pressing the foot brake - I presume this is telling the car I'm aware and taking action to prevent a collision - even though there is no collision imminent and I'm traveling at low speed as its approaching a mini roundabout - the section of road has a small island in the middle of the road, cars are parked on the left and the road has a kink to it - it kinks left where the island is and immediately to the right and within 20 yards is the mini roundabout. I understand why it alerts but as Pagemakers has said, its a result of software/hardware changes - and not, driving like a twat, which is what you infer.
Just completed my first daylight drive in sunny showers and the wipers are every bit as bad as before.
Mine is set on medium and I hardly ever get them, and the last one was a genuine warning as someone pulled out in front of me at a roundabout.
It apparently uses the cabin camera to assess how much attention you're paying to the road, so if it thinks you aren't looking then you'll get earlier warnings.
Interesting. I’d say in the last 5 years I’ve had half a dozen genuine ones. In the last 6 months I’ve had about 20-30. Probably one or two are genuine. Odd that.
I’m on medium too. Always have been.
I’m on medium too. Always have been.
MrBadger
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Cyclists coming towards you on other side of road that is curved to your right seems to be a common false alert trigger.
I guess it thinks cyclists are going to go straight across the road in front of you rather than following the curve of the road.
I agree though, false alerts are common now where as they use to be rare.
I guess it thinks cyclists are going to go straight across the road in front of you rather than following the curve of the road.
I agree though, false alerts are common now where as they use to be rare.
Parked cars on the corner do it now.. that's new to vision. It used to be smart enough to know that you're going round a curve not driving straight but no longer.
Yep had that too. My car slammed on its brakes as I was turning left at an island with a pedestrian on the pavement waiting to cross. Luckily nobody slammed in me from behind.
I’m convinced there is nothing “wrong” with my car.
Different cars. Some vision only from production. Some software updated to vision only and some too old for vision only.
My experiences are the same as 60% of the replies on this thread.
I have spent weeks/ months with Tesla a couple of years ago regarding phantom braking to absolutely ZERO improvement.
It isn’t MY car at fault.
Different cars. Some vision only from production. Some software updated to vision only and some too old for vision only.
My experiences are the same as 60% of the replies on this thread.
I have spent weeks/ months with Tesla a couple of years ago regarding phantom braking to absolutely ZERO improvement.
It isn’t MY car at fault.
But consider these forums represent possibly 1% of Tesla ownership, and these forums (like all product forums) tend to be a whine-fest. Moreover, this is the pommie forum, so the whining is turned up to 11
Agreed but in my 7 years of 2 Tesla ownership, when the clever stuff was turned off on my car and it moved to vision only the automatics deteriorated significantly.
Is it that unreasonable for the computer to assume that you’re not paying attention to the road in that case?My internal camera, one behind rear view mirror, is blocked by me
WannabeOwner
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No (although I suppose an outside chance that there is a calibration problem ... unlike that is "everyone" though), but it might be related to your choice of settings. That said I would expect Tesla to be able to analysis who-has-what-settings and spot any trends - although, to do that, they probably need a "How satisfied with AP are you" to know which owners / settings to review.
But, there may be another reason.
All my long journeys are in MS, I use the MY for short journeys (and an M3 before that). I turn on AP in all sorts of conditions, just to see how it behaves, but my actual real-world long distance usage of AP is in an MS.
So that would be different to majority (and I have no idea if Tesla have stopped using some sensors on e.g. MY but have not (yet ...) on MS
@WannabeOwner Funnily enough, I was about to write a similar post. Our MY occasionally misbehaves. Phantom braking, but it's improved significantly over the past year. Our 2019 MX is really good. Of late, I have done several 100 mile+ runs in the MX with Autopilot driving pretty much the whole way, changing lanes, managing traffic, etc. No phantom braking incidents in the MX at all. It feels like the MX is still utilising all the hardware.
MrBadger
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If you don’t change your settings in 4 years, yet behaviour changes dramatically, either something else changed the settings, or something changed in the software. I’ll rule out something changed in hardware as it would be unusual for everyone’s hardware to suddenly change… oh wait …
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