JeffK
Well-Known Member
Like I've said previously you have to actually read my comments my friend.
Elon Musk on Tesla/Panasonic’s new 2170 battery cell: ‘highest energy density cell in the world…that is also the cheapest’
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Elon Musk on Tesla/Panasonic’s new 2170 battery cell: ‘highest energy density cell in the world…that is also the cheapest’
JeffK
Well-Known Member
I never said it did... we were establishing Elon was bragging about battery price and capacity.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
I know, I keep telling him to read the conversations above but he likes to put words in people's mouths and creates strawman arguments.
alseTrick
Active Member
Even though Tesla never guaranteed anything other than 215+ miles...
JeffK
Well-Known Member
chronopc
Active Member
You're putting words in Elon's mouth. Just because you don't want to accept people's arguments and facts doesn't mean that it's a strawman argument.I know, I keep telling him to read the conversations above but he likes to put words in people's mouths and creates strawman arguments.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
I didn't put words in Elon's mouth ... see the article. There's a direct quote from Elon regarding the new battery capacity and price.
chronopc
Active Member
You should read the article and see how it doesn't mention either the Model 3 or the Bolt which you insist on bringing up on this thread. So you are putting what he said about batteries in general and applying it to the Model 3 vs. the Bolt. That's the textbook example of putting words in other people's mouth.
AlanSqB
Dog Chauffeur
Right now Chevy is actually having trouble selling the bolt and they're losing money on each one. The bolt only has two real advantages, one is that it is available now and the other is the real world price is lower. As much as I hate dealing with automotive dealerships , most people pay less then the retail price and the federal rebate is going to last longer at Chevy. When you look at the wAys that the M3 beats the bolt it seems almost laughable that anyone would buy the bolt after seeing the M3.
alseTrick
Active Member
JeffK
Well-Known Member
If another module was stacked in the back under the passenger seat or the battery itself was extended in some fashion it could definitely fit 100 kWh in some way. It wouldn't fit with the current flat battery design between the motors as is though, especially with no module stacking like you see on the S.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
Can you quote me where I said anything of the sort? Didn't think so.
Here's a recap of the conversation:
After this you make an assumption that that Elon was speaking about a Bolt for some reason:
We are speaking about the disappointment many felt after assuming that the base Model 3 would beat the Bolts range based on Elon's ego and that Tesla supposedly has the cheapest and high energy density cells.
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JeffK
Well-Known Member
Many road trippers might need this or especially travelling in areas where superchargers are sparse. Outside the major highway systems, there parts of the US where you'd be cutting it close with 300 mi on a round trip.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Elon Musk on Twitter
Ye of little faith. That was a cute way of saying it without saying it.
Does the Model 3 beat the bolt in mileage? Yep. Good job Elon.
Elon Musk hints that the Tesla Model 3 will have more range than the Chevy Bolt
Garlan Garner
Banned
I am shocked how people are upset with the battery when Tesla hasn't mentioned anything about the battery. Nothing on the website or anything official.
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