JRP3
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As I understand it the differences are minor and do not change the severity of infection.
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Coronavirus
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2 fatalities in the 50-59 out of just over 1,000 cases, hmmm 0.2%cfr
40-49 had 1 fatality, but it was a foreigner who caught it offshore australian, but treated in australia and died. I accept that it should report to australia compared to any other country, but i dont feel it is relevant to australians otherwise. So no australian fatality in 40-49 bracketor any younger bracket. So for ages less than 60, it is a barely fatal disease. (So whats the difference if its not human or viral genetics?)
linux-works
Active Member
they stole my idea. oh well.
Airport’s bizarre robot to fight coronavirus
I was thinking: perhaps it would make sense to have some robot 'cart' ride around at work (typical office environment, grid of desks) and slowly go thru all the paths, at night, with uvc lights. the building would be ensured to be person, animal and plant-free (hard to make some offices plant-free, but maybe we need to, now) but I think it could be done.
automated navigation by a little buggy inside the office, on a trained simple path, with no one around and perhaps a security guy looking at it while it does its thing (remotely) - would not be hard to make and it could do its round each nite and probably finish enough coverage by start of day next day.
I bet this is going to happen. it sounds like there is already some thought about this, via the article.
comments on the idea? should we do more of that?
Airport’s bizarre robot to fight coronavirus
I was thinking: perhaps it would make sense to have some robot 'cart' ride around at work (typical office environment, grid of desks) and slowly go thru all the paths, at night, with uvc lights. the building would be ensured to be person, animal and plant-free (hard to make some offices plant-free, but maybe we need to, now) but I think it could be done.
automated navigation by a little buggy inside the office, on a trained simple path, with no one around and perhaps a security guy looking at it while it does its thing (remotely) - would not be hard to make and it could do its round each nite and probably finish enough coverage by start of day next day.
I bet this is going to happen. it sounds like there is already some thought about this, via the article.
comments on the idea? should we do more of that?
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Adrian Hill, Director, Jenner Institute at Oxford University, says their vacine may be available in 6 mths because it has been in development for decades (an effort to stop other corona viruses).
They adjusted their vacine for Covid-19 and tested it on 6 monkeys at the Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Montana. The monkeys did not get sick after exposure to the virus.
Manufacturers are scaling for production. If futher trials are successful, the first batches for humans may be available in Europe by September.
Director Hill told NBC News on Tue, Apr 28: "We are aiming to make 100s of millions of doses of the vacine."
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
WTF?
Hell, why not apply New York state's 14% to the entire country?
Do you even read articles before you post them?
It seems like a better methodology would be to find a region of New York with similar number of deaths and demographics and use the data from there. They broke up the New York serology survey by region. You could probably do the math yourself instead of relying on innumerate media reporting.
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Daniel in SD
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Another thing to keep in mind is that majority of Australia's cases were in people who contracted the virus while traveling overseas. I would guess that this group is healthier than the general population.
Maybe 0.2% is barely fatal to Australians.
Keep in mind that there are still 28 people in ICU and I wouldn't be surprised if younger people are overrepresented in that group (because they survive longer on a ventilator). I'm not sure if anyone understands yet why the severity is so much more extreme for older age groups.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Elon Musk is our new stable genius! They can’t force you to stay at home due to coronavirus if you have no home! How did he get so smart?
I have been remiss here in not paying more attention to @TheTalkingMule and others who have been emphasizing the under appreciated mental health impact of the stay at home orders.
I have been remiss here in not paying more attention to @TheTalkingMule and others who have been emphasizing the under appreciated mental health impact of the stay at home orders.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
There are studies in some European towns where they have actually used random samples. Ofcourse people can still accept / decline to give blood, just like people can accept or decline to take polls.
Doggydogworld
Active Member
Norbert
TSLA will win
The lockdown in Almeda county is no joke. Fines and jail time.
http://www.acphd.org/2019-ncov/shelter-in-place.aspx
http://www.acphd.org/media/572718/health-officer-order-20-10-shelter-in-place-20200429.pdf
"Please read this Order carefully. Violation of or failure to comply with this Order is a misdemeanor punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both. (California Health and Safety Code § 120295, et seq.; Cal. Penal Code §§ 69, 148(a)(1))"
http://www.acphd.org/2019-ncov/shelter-in-place.aspx
http://www.acphd.org/media/572718/health-officer-order-20-10-shelter-in-place-20200429.pdf
"Please read this Order carefully. Violation of or failure to comply with this Order is a misdemeanor punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both. (California Health and Safety Code § 120295, et seq.; Cal. Penal Code §§ 69, 148(a)(1))"
Do you think its just teh relaxed countermeasures that pushed R down to ~1 or is it a combination of relaxed countermeasure and herd immunity pushing R down?
jhm
Well-Known Member
Hmm, I wonder if air planes could have built-in UV lights. It could zap those boogers while in flight, not just between flights.
Once I had a whole vacation ruined by catching a virus on the plane. Many others have had that experience. It is an experience that makes you want to avoid flying as much as possible. Controlling the spread of a virus in flight could enhance the value of a flight.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
I had a lovely mountain bike ride yesterday which appears to also be allowed under the Alameda county orders. I think characterizing the order as a "lockdown" isn't quite accurate.
This must be what Elon read when he decided to sell his houses. It would be nice to know specifically what he would like to do that he cannot legally do right now.
linux-works
Active Member
wow. interesting. so that IS a 'thing'.
there's a set of people who work in this field and understand it, have experience in it, know the products and competitors.
99% of us have never had to know about this stuff before, but we sure are getting a fast education.
(btw, shouldn't that guy be wearing better ppe, himself? if that really is uvc, a lot can be reflected back to him while he' walking with that).
the problem with office parks in the US is that most that I've worked at all have sealed in windows that you can't open; and you have to ventillate the room after you uv zap it (lots of ozone left). I question how well current industrial buildings for office workers would be able to vent this well enough each nite, if they did have a nite long uv robot visit.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Yeah, the way I read that it does not seem restrictive at all! Can pretty much do anything I would want to do. The only annoyance is if people are irresponsible and they close beaches or parks or trails - but seem to be going the right way on that - many of those are open now!
I too wonder what exactly Elon thinks he cannot do. Other than open his factory of course - seems like he should be focused on doing that, rather than trying to sell all his worldly possessions. He does not appear to be attempting to reopen the factory in any reasonable way, which I find to be odd.
linux-works
Active Member
MXLRplus
Active Member
Go out and look. Drive around. Do you see day laborers wearing PPE? Do you see the PD telling them to disperse? Such laws will have little effect on the majority of those who get infected.
The off-the-books workers never skipped a beat. I'm as guilty as anyone since our common area maintenance and our office cleaning probably uses illegals for labor. We do not interface with their staff at all though, we are not within 30' of their staff at any time, and we required them to be masked to be on our property.
This is feel good law will mostly be used to arrest protesters. Thank God they suspended the BoR for 2020.
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