Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Exactly. It's a meta-philosophical notion so it really should have no bearing on how we live our lives.
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Exactly. It's a meta-philosophical notion so it really should have no bearing on how we live our lives.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Not at all the same. Your gut and intuition is revolting against something because it feels "unnatural" and you come up with a straw man counter argument. What you're suggesting is not at all the simulation argument. Please take the time to read and understand the argument if you want to discuss the probabilies involved.
Are You Living in a Simulation?
They seem to have removed the article from their site. Here's Google's cache of it:
Make Elon Giggle
There is virtually zero chance the moon landing was faked. For a start there were just way too many people involved for it to be kept secret at the time. The technology wasn't up to that kind of faking, and they've found the remains of the landing on the moon. Also most of us have our jobs because of the technology invented or promoted from the Apollo program.
Saying that the moon landing was faked is similar to saying the that Holocaust didn't happen. Eisenhower told his staff to take all the pictures they could possibly take because someone in the future would say it didn't happen (and they have).
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Another devilishly clever xkcd cartoon.
But the moon landing denier lunatics would respond that the Saturn V only had enough fuel to orbit the earth for a week or two and that it never actually left earth orbit.
And now I'm contributing to this thread going way off topic. Sorry...
But the moon landing denier lunatics would respond that the Saturn V only had enough fuel to orbit the earth for a week or two and that it never actually left earth orbit.
And now I'm contributing to this thread going way off topic. Sorry...
Krugerrand
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Let me correct that statement for you. Some fear.... Many of the people 'here' simply don't agree with you.
It has nothing to do with your voice being removed. It's forum policy to not talk politics or religion, post porn or other provocative stuffs. This is very specifically a Tesla Enthusiasts Forum. No more, no less. No conspiracy. No trying to shut you off. Anyone who wants to discuss religion et al are free to seek out a forum that caters to that.
Yeah, wasn't really your point or you'd just have posted that single statement and moved on.
I can only speak for myself (and you should really only speak for yourself or choose better words). I'm not part of any 'all', nor do I love the idea of living in someone's computer. I've actually never even given it a moments thought until quite recently. It is fascinating, but frankly I'm really fine with what I've thought all my life about my (our) existence. And as long as people don't preach at me (which is exactly the feeling I get when you post), particularly when I've chosen to participate in an environment that has rules stating to keep discussions away from specific topics, I'm perfectly okay with you believing what you do. Summarized: keep it (religious belief) to yourself on this forum and I'll keep it to myself on this forum.
Skotty
2014 S P85 | 2023 F-150L
chugga chugga choo choo crazy train! All aboard! Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just poking fun at the idea of living in a computer simluation. The real problem is there are too many variables to the question for which we have no idea what the values for those variables would be. The chances could be high, they could be near zero. So it's all just gut feelings. My gut says it's pretty unlikely. Others will say it's pretty likely. But in the end it is a pointless debate as there is no evidence one way or the other. Just speculation.
BTW, if you think we are living in a computer simulation, then the moon landing was indeed faked, from a certain point of view; as is everything else in this world. Just an interesting point to ponder.
BTW, if you think we are living in a computer simulation, then the moon landing was indeed faked, from a certain point of view; as is everything else in this world. Just an interesting point to ponder.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Applying the antropic principle allows us to draw inference without having the full evidence available to us. In other words we can "calculate" a probability distribution for something such as whether reality is a simulation or not by applying reasonably weighted prior probabilites, even though we will never ever be able to know the real truth (if the simulation stops we cease to exist).
Anthropic principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
FlatSix911
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Back on track ... Elon's secret plan to convert other automakers to EVs is working... Brilliant!
Skotty
2014 S P85 | 2023 F-150L
Re: Elon's secret plan to convert other automakers to EVs
Would be nice to see some real competition. Though at the same time, I secretly giggle at the idea of Tesla stomping all over the rest of the auto industry for awhile in the years ahead.
Would be nice to see some real competition. Though at the same time, I secretly giggle at the idea of Tesla stomping all over the rest of the auto industry for awhile in the years ahead.
Article on the cars Elon Musk has owned:
What cars did Elon Musk drive before Tesla?
All his ICEs were European and all had good performance, which probably influenced the P85/P85D/P90D development.
What cars did Elon Musk drive before Tesla?
All his ICEs were European and all had good performance, which probably influenced the P85/P85D/P90D development.
Forty five? I've got two years to get some serious stuff done, I guess...
Tom Lehrer once said that he recently realized when Mozart was his age, he'd been dead for three years.
I'm older'n that. I'm feeling a bit depressed at my lack of achievements.
Our world is pretty crazy. When you look at the physical laws; the way chemistry works; and most of all, the utterly random results of evolution. Sure, we could simulate it. But suppose we were an intelligent species in some other universe. Why the heck would we want to simulate *this*?
Most simulations are cleaner and more elegant than reality. This is the evidence that we are not living in a simulation. Or if we are, the guy who wrote the simulation was a perverse nutcase who liked to write really ugly simulations.
It complex/crazy for us. This doesn't mean it's complex for a super-intelligent species.
Maybe a single law can explain everything, it just has a thousand of parameters, the point is: if it's so, this is an elegant solution. you don't invent a thousands of rules, you just put one, complex, law that determine everything..
But if you don't see the global equation, you just think it's all crazy and non interconnected.
What in the hell has a thunder in common with the static shock you get when exiting the car? all. the point is, if you don't know it .. it seems it's governed by 2 different law, but it isn't
Maybe a single law can explain everything, it just has a thousand of parameters, the point is: if it's so, this is an elegant solution. you don't invent a thousands of rules, you just put one, complex, law that determine everything..
But if you don't see the global equation, you just think it's all crazy and non interconnected.
What in the hell has a thunder in common with the static shock you get when exiting the car? all. the point is, if you don't know it .. it seems it's governed by 2 different law, but it isn't
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