Krugerrand
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Right. Because you have no responsibility to verify information directly from the source if there might be any confusion or ambiguity before you publish an article.
Plenty of blame to go around.
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Employee who sent $30,000 off email was FIRED!
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Right. Because you have no responsibility to verify information directly from the source if there might be any confusion or ambiguity before you publish an article.
Plenty of blame to go around.
Probably best in the future to redact the sender's name if anyone is going to post an email from a Tesla employee! I have a feeling if that had happened here things would have turned out better and the message would have had the same affect.
So the tl;dr version: Tesla store employee gets fired for doing his job. Life is harsh sometimes.
The email that was sent is very misleading. Even the recipients that know Tesla were speculating this is on new vehicles.
The information many people seem to be basing their opinions on hearing it from " a friend that knows" the sales rep.
Even IF the rep was authorized, we don't know what that means. Did his manager tell him to notify customers on the mailing list of the discounts on some inventory vehicles? Or did the manager actually read the email before sending it? I expect he didn't have approval, but if he did, it was the email wasn't reviewed.
I also don't know that this was the only reason for the dismissal, it may simply be one of many.
The information many people seem to be basing their opinions on hearing it from " a friend that knows" the sales rep.
Even IF the rep was authorized, we don't know what that means. Did his manager tell him to notify customers on the mailing list of the discounts on some inventory vehicles? Or did the manager actually read the email before sending it? I expect he didn't have approval, but if he did, it was the email wasn't reviewed.
I also don't know that this was the only reason for the dismissal, it may simply be one of many.
Aaron is a great guy. If it helps, we can all send a formal letter to his manager to reconsider this decision.
SucreTease
Teslarian
Probably because we do not know all the details, including official Tesla policies. I do not agree with the conspiracy-theory angle that many people seem prone to project onto stories.
I've followed AmpedRealtor on TMC for several years. He is just about as good an a owner you could want and a huge advocate for Tesla. His *only* motivation for posting that email, was to help get more people behind the wheel of a Tesla and further Tesla's mission statement.
But, But, But, The ad revenue!!!Right. Because you have no responsibility to verify information directly from the source if there might be any confusion or ambiguity before you publish an article.
Oh, this decision didn't come from his manager..... think bigger. I hate to invoke the name, but it would be interesting to get a perspective on this from a certain president of global sales and service....
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I completely agree that people rush to share info here, not thinking of consequences.
Simple rule of thumb that I follow: Before posting communication from an individual at any company (not just Tesla), I get permission to share publicly. And I always remove the name and contact info. If someone wants to get in touch with that person after I post it, I'll forward the message. It's up to the recipient if they want to share their contact info.
We still don't know that it was the email that got the guy fired. We don't know if there were other issues that caused his firing. So much we don't know.
Edit: I will say that if he got *creative* with how inventory cars were being priced on his own and sent that out, yeah, I'd probably fire him if there had been other issues. Huge warning if there had not been other issues.
There is no way a '$30k discount!!!' wouldn't be picked up and amplified. Sending out a letter saying 'we have some really great showroom and loaner cars with substantial discounts' is vastly different than what was sent out. And the $30K off approach smacks of used car salesman tactics.
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My opinion is that the message was very misleading and action should be taken. These are not new cars. They are demo cars or refused cars. We all have read those threads about cars getting rejected because of minor paint defects, etc. Well, they don't just melt those down and start over.
- In the other thread some were saying how horrible it is for current owners to be discounting new cars (they aren't exactly new).
- Last time around, some were saying "if Elon is serious, someone should be fired".
Is firing appropriate? Not sure. None of us know if there is anymore to the story, or if they already had a first/second warning.
- In the other thread some were saying how horrible it is for current owners to be discounting new cars (they aren't exactly new).
- Last time around, some were saying "if Elon is serious, someone should be fired".
Is firing appropriate? Not sure. None of us know if there is anymore to the story, or if they already had a first/second warning.
Xenoilphobe
Well-Known Member
I think it's time for a more mature CEO. This smacks of complete immaturity and poor management. EM can run his mouth all day without recourse but his front line sales team makes a mistake and he smokes them. Must feel good to be the King. I hope the board smokes him the same way when he misses his numbers due to the draconian treatment of his revenue generation team.
Come on treat your front line team better than that.
Come on treat your front line team better than that.
I once complained about Amazon using a refrigerator box when they shipped me a single 9V battery. The rest of the space was taken up by Air-Paks. The guy got fired. &#%$ Bezos!
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I'm not sure why it was misleading. The email was to existing owners who are in the know and started off with "showroom" incentives:
We are offering showroom incentives up to $30,000 off the original configuration price
Didn't say new, custom builds, etc.
Also I don't know why folks are blaming @AmpedRealtor. Again these discounts are not a secret. He was probably just trying to help sales for both Aaron and TSLA. He is the moderator of our AZ Tesla FB group. We all have an interest seeing TSLA succeed.
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gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
We obviously don't know any other missteps that the employee may have made that could've contributed to this but, looking at his wording from the email, yes, it was misleading in that it implied that any P100D car in the showroom (and by extension, new inventory and custom orders) would be discounted.
Is this alone grounds for dismissal rather than some strong rap on the knuckles? IMO, absolutely not. I wouldn't want to work for such a heartless company.
Is this alone grounds for dismissal rather than some strong rap on the knuckles? IMO, absolutely not. I wouldn't want to work for such a heartless company.
T34ME
Active Member
Typical for TMC, there are lots of assumptions and speculations in this thread. We will never know the reason(s) why Tesla decided to 'separate' the former employee. Tesla is bound by non-disclosure labor law for separation and the former employee has a right to privacy. If the former employee decides to state his interpretations of the reasons publicly, then Tesla will have the legal right to respond. Jumping to conclusions is inappropriate on this forum or anywhere at this time.
I cringed when I saw the original discount post. Tesla hates things like that, and it was too high profile to quietly retract and bury.
