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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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If you only charge on greener days, you get octopoints. I had a good run until i had to charge and there hadnt been any green days for about a week (atleast i didnt receive the reminder emails)
Yeah, but what are the rules? I don't pay any attention to green days just plug it in, how many are needed, are there streak goals. As they decide the charging when I plug in, I don't really think it's much to do with me to be honest. But then for 10p, it's not worth losing sleep over.
 
My Intelligent Octopus Go fell over today, got an email saying I needed to reconnect car with new virtual key. I'm in the process of also moving gas to Octopus so it may be due to background tinkering because of that or it may just have been a coincidence as all was good last night.

Either way, after getting the message in the Tesla app that a virtual key had been set up the process would fail after trying to do the test charge.

This was resolved by deleting the virtual key in the car itself, from the lock menu.

So, just a heads up that if for some reason you need to reconnect with a new virtual key, check and delete any previous one from within the car first before going through the process.

Top tip, remember to take key card to car with you as this will be needed and you won't possibly get twice as wet as you would have done had you only had to go out once.
 
Yeah, but what are the rules? I don't pay any attention to green days just plug it in, how many are needed, are there streak goals. As they decide the charging when I plug in, I don't really think it's much to do with me to be honest. But then for 10p, it's not worth losing sleep over.
I think you get points for IO charging on greener days. You get 8 points the first time and more on successive occasions up to a maximum of 80. The emails refer to weeks and I infer that if there are more than one green days in a week you only need to charge on one of them to maintain the streak. If you miss a week I guess you start again. There is certainly no penalty for charging on less green days - some weeks I’m charging every day but still get my 80 points.
 
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My Intelligent Octopus Go fell over today, got an email saying I needed to reconnect car with new virtual key. I'm in the process of also moving gas to Octopus so it may be due to background tinkering because of that or it may just have been a coincidence as all was good last night.

Either way, after getting the message in the Tesla app that a virtual key had been set up the process would fail after trying to do the test charge.

This was resolved by deleting the virtual key in the car itself, from the lock menu.

So, just a heads up that if for some reason you need to reconnect with a new virtual key, check and delete any previous one from within the car first before going through the process.

Top tip, remember to take key card to car with you as this will be needed and you won't possibly get twice as wet as you would have done had you only had to go out once.
I had the same today, device tab disappeared from the app after I received an email from octopus saying I had to update.
All done and working as it was last week.
 
Can I ask; how long after you get home do you plug-in and how long does the Octopus app take to recognise you’re plugged in and take over to
stop the charge?

I have an Ohme ePod and due to having no mobile signal I’ve had to set it up as a dumb charger and link IO to my MY directly. It seems to work ok the first time after the test charge, but subsequently Octopus don’t seem to recognising the car is plugged in. Every time I charge I’m having to remove the car and set it all up again to get it to work.

It’s probably something I’m doing wrong but at the moment I don’t know what.
 
Can I ask; how long after you get home do you plug-in and how long does the Octopus app take to recognise you’re plugged in and take over to
stop the charge?

I have an Ohme ePod and due to having no mobile signal I’ve had to set it up as a dumb charger and link IO to my MY directly. It seems to work ok the first time after the test charge, but subsequently Octopus don’t seem to recognising the car is plugged in. Every time I charge I’m having to remove the car and set it all up again to get it to work.

It’s probably something I’m doing wrong but at the moment I don’t know what.
Sometimes it’s mins, but it can be half an hour
As Browellm says I just switch charging off on the app and if I need a schedule straight away I refresh the app until it appears.
If it is being particularly slow I turn smart charge off in the app and then enable it and that normally works pretty quickly.
 
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That’s interesting, thanks.

The time I tried stopping the charging in the Tesla app played merry hell with the whole thing but maybe something else was going on. I’m going to ring Octopus again tomorrow and try to get to the bottom of it…it would be nice to just plug it in and forget about it, knowing it’s just going to work!
 
That’s interesting, thanks.

The time I tried stopping the charging in the Tesla app played merry hell with the whole thing but maybe something else was going on. I’m going to ring Octopus again tomorrow and try to get to the bottom of it…it would be nice to just plug it in and forget about it, knowing it’s just going to work!
Hi.
I have to load it manually. Example and photo.
After connecting the car to the charger, I stopped charging and received the charging start schedule at 8:30pm - 9.00pm and 9:30pm -4.00am. The intelligent charger did not start charging at 8:30pm and 9:30pm. I would like to mention that there are no schedules turned on in the app and in the car. I added the virtual key a month ago. I had no problem with intelligent charging for a year. I updated the app a week ago and since then I have lost smart charging.
 

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…I stopped charging and received the charging start schedule at 8:30pm - 9.00pm and 9:30pm -4.00am. The intelligent charger did not start charging at 8:30pm and 9:30pm….

It’s very disconcerting but the car does not continuously charge within the scheduled time slots so just because it says it’s going to start at a particular 1/2 hourly slot doesn’t mean that it will.

Sometimes it only charges for a few minutes at some point within that slot. A nights charge will often be made up of many start/stop charge sequences.
 
That’s interesting, thanks.

The time I tried stopping the charging in the Tesla app played merry hell with the whole thing but maybe something else was going on. I’m going to ring Octopus again tomorrow and try to get to the bottom of it…it would be nice to just plug it in and forget about it, knowing it’s just going to work!

I stop manually as well, but only after seeing a positive charge rate appear in the app, at least ~3kWh. Just takes a few seconds, I found if I stopped manually immediately and before a charge rate registered it appeared to adversely affect a schedule appearing.

If a schedule ever doesn’t appear after an hour or two, switching on scheduled time charging via the Tesla app invariably causes one to appear shortly thereafter for whatever reason, at which point scheduled time charging can be switched off, remembering to stop the charge that will start when you do so.

Always need to remember it’s still officially a beta product I think.
 
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I’m on to Octopus at the moment. It looks like the issue might be that location data is missing (at least that’s what they can see at their end), but fully in compliance with Sod’s Law I’ve plugged the car in whilst on to them, stopped the charge in the Tesla app and after a couple of minutes a smart schedule has appeared. Obviously.

Will report back what they say.
 
Got an email telling me IO lost connection to my car and to switch to a Virtual Key by July 1st or I'd be booted off the IO tariff.

The email mentioned that they wrote to me a couple weeks back but I actually never received anything apart from reports from others on this thread... Seems like the Tesla API migration was a bit wobbly...