Wiki FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting

[rpiolends]

This is bullshit. This is the official excuse Tesla is using to weasel out! I guess this is their official position. Time for lawyers!!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597671526563688448

the flaw in the logic is that if i don't have the software, Tesla will provide it to me free of charge. if I don't have the app i can download it free of charge, if i don't have the right FSD chip, Tesla provides it free of charge, if don't have the right camera's Tesla provides them free of charge.

but when it comes to the right MCU, you got to buy it. so the argument becomes, why that piece of hardware.

 

[Mardak]

but when it comess to the right MCU, you got to buy it. so the argument becomes, why that piece of hardware.

I suppose Tesla does not intend to support FSD for hardware without at least RCCB cameras and FSD Computer, so that's why those are replaced as part of FSD Capability price. Whereas, the intent is that visualizations aren't necessary long term for FSD, but for Beta so far, it's important enough to not offer the software upgrade to MCU1 vehicles.

Then the question is if FSD Beta is still requiring human supervision, at what safety level is it okay to deploy to vehicles with limited visualizations? Is it only if/when Tesla believes FSD doesn't require monitoring?

Personally I think FSD Beta 10.69.3.1 could be used safely without the visualizations already.

 

[Solar40]

the flaw in the logic is that if i don't have the software, Tesla will provide it to me free of charge. if I don't have the app i can download it free of charge, if i don't have the right FSD chip, Tesla provides it free of charge, if don't have the right camera's Tesla provides them free of charge.

but when it comes to the right MCU, you got to buy it. so the argument becomes, why that piece of hardware.

I agree. This is what was sent to a customer recently. But Teslascope is now saying some updates are on the way shortly. Holiday update. So there are conflicting reports. There still may be a chance. We’ll see. I’ll continue to share any info.

 

[Solar40]

From what I gather. I think they sayin Fsd will be available for mcu1. However, it won't have the cool visuals of mcu2. Don’t care. That was never promised and thise certainly weren’t promised in 2016. Don’t care. Long as it works. I can upgrade my mcu later.

 

[⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️]

the flaw in the logic is that if i don't have the software, Tesla will provide it to me free of charge. if I don't have the app i can download it free of charge, if i don't have the right FSD chip, Tesla provides it free of charge, if don't have the right camera's Tesla provides them free of charge.

but when it comes to the right MCU, you got to buy it. so the argument becomes, why that piece of hardware.

To me it was well worth 1500 or whatever it was for the added benefits of the upgrade. If someone has held out this long for MCU2 then I think Tesla should cover it.

 

[Tesomega]

To me it was well worth 1500 or whatever it was for the added benefits of the upgrade. If someone has held out this long for MCU2 then I think Tesla should cover it.

Its not 1500 anymore its like 1750 with recent price changes.. (ie) not including FM Radio tuner if you need it.

 

[rpiolends]

Its not 1500 anymore its like 1750 with recent price changes.. (ie) not including FM Radio tuner if you need it.

They threw a 75 battery in my 60 and locked me out. I could of paid the upgrade price but didn't. I'm guessing that if they were truly concerned about me getting something for free, they could put in the MCU2 and lock me out of the features they don't think I deserve.

 

[Solar40]

Got this email today. So hopefully this is true. According to this, It’s looking good for mcu1 in a few weeks. Fingered crossed everybody.

 

[gaswalla]

I have mcu2 and have had both displays crash during fsdb. I wouldn’t count on mcu1 working well

 

[Solar40]

Could imagine. I think we’ll have reduced visuals if any at all. From what I understand. Beta still works even when the mcu and ic are rebooting. Is that true? You have beta, so I have to take your word on that.

 

[rpiolends]

So since the annocement, i requested service apointment because my car doesn't have the request autopilot button and i paid for FSD and I'm in north america, so something must be wrong. I'll let them tell me in writing that MCU2 is needed.

So an update from the service center. I got the Estimate. For the FSD/Button they closed it under "educate customer" so i'll see what they tell me when i get there. For the camera they gave the following estimate.
Correction: Replace Forward Facing Camera
Parts Replaced or Added
Part Quantity
INLINE TRIPLE CAM, 1.00 S/X/3(1120520-00-B)
Correction: Replace B-Pillar Camera – LH
Parts Replaced or Added
Part Quantity
B-PILLAR CAMERA, 1.00 LEFT(1069104-SL-D)
Correction: Replace B-Pillar Camera – RH Parts Replaced or Added
0.00
1 of 4

Part Quantity
B-PILLAR CAMERA, 1.00 RIGHT(1069104-SR-D)
Correction: Replace Side Repeater Camera – LH
Parts Replaced or Added
Part Quantity
SIDE REPEATER TRIM 1.00 - CHROME AERO RIB,
LEFT HAND(1514877-
01-C)
LAMP ASY, SIDE 1.00 REPEATER CAMERA,
LEFT HAND(1495866-
22-C)
Correction: Replace Side Repeater Camera – RH
Parts Replaced or Added
Part Quantity
SIDE REPEATER TRIM 1.00 - CHROME AERO RIB, RH(1514878-01-C)
LAMP ASY, SIDE 1.00 REPEATER CAMERA,
RIGHT HAND(1495867-
22-C)

 

[scarelli]

Welp… my Twitter account has been suspended…

 

[ABC2D]

Welp… my Twitter account has been suspended…

Welp... and that pertains to "FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting" topic how?

 

[ABC2D]

Welp... and that pertains to "FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting" topic how?

Found the context (I think):
Apparently related as, seemingly, he was repeatedly asking EM on Twitter the same question about getting FSDb on MCU1 and got flogged as a bot, but I'm not sure and could be wrong

 

[KArnold]

and got flogged as a bot

Flogged? Wow - Elon is taking this Twitter thing too far!

 

[Mardak]

Welp… my Twitter account has been suspended…

I think your account is fixed now?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598361871676940288

https://twitter.com/x/status/1598362159381385218

I doubt it was specifically about your asking about MCU1 and camera retrofits for earliest adopters. But potentially it was the pattern of tweeting @elonmusk as others might have been temporarily suspended by an overly-aggressive spam/bot detection algorithm.

 

[Mardak]

According to this, It’s looking good for mcu1 in a few weeks

If Tesla is working on new FSD visualizations for all vehicles as part of this year's holiday update, it would make sense to take learnings from the visualizations needed for FSD Beta safety and make it compatible with MCU1 / NVIDIA Tegra while making the changes for the wider fleet.

Curious, have you / others with MCU1 been able to get RCCB cameras installed so that if there's MCU1 compatibility as part of the likely holiday update in a few weeks, you would be ready to turn it on? Or will there be a delay after that release before earliest adopters can even schedule camera replacements?

 

[scottf200]

If Tesla is working on new FSD visualizations for all vehicles as part of this year's holiday update, it would make sense to take learnings from the visualizations needed for FSD Beta safety and make it compatible with MCU1 / NVIDIA Tegra while making the changes for the wider fleet.

Curious, have you / others with MCU1 been able to get RCCB cameras installed so that if there's MCU1 compatibility as part of the likely holiday update in a few weeks, you would be ready to turn it on? Or will there be a delay after that release before earliest adopters can even schedule camera replacements?

The instrument cluster display in MCU1 setups has it's own computer AFAIK (MCU2 uses a new version of it as a 2nd monitor) so that doesn't sound like Tesla would spend the efforts to use it for FSD. I'd be surprised.

 

[rpiolends]

My car is in for service now. they are replacing the cameras. they havent commited to replacing the MCU yet. but its probably gonna be in a while. the drive unit is milling.

 

[Solar40]

They still won’t do my cams. How did you get them to do it. I guess it depends on sc. I’ve seen a few people get them, but not many. I think those 2018’s on mcu1 got the right cams. I could be wrong.