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If you're not still waiting, you're not supposed to post on this thread anymore /s. Not my rule, someone up
there told me that.
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Wiki FSD’s Earliest Adopters Still Waiting
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there told me that.Perhaps the holiday update will bring features like Remote Sentry View or Blindspot to legacy vehicles with cameras updated and just forgo whatever new holiday features there will be. The circle of life
Okay so new cameras just now installed on my dec 2016x with MCU2 and hW3 . 20 minutes later the beta FSD started downloading from the mothership . Installed now and FSD is way better than I could have ever Imagined/ well worth the 6 year wait !! 
It seems pretty clear to me that MCU2 is a requirement. I wish tesla would see that and make it so.
If Tesla makes a statement saying MCU2 is a requirement, then they would be obligated to upgrade those folks with mcu1 who purchased FSD. In a similar manner to the cameras. If they stay quiet on the matter, then folks will eventually cave in and upgrade on their own (or eventually lose interest). Quite a shame, but this is a peek into how the company thinks
I don’t think Tesla is unclear on this.
I wonder if Tesla is concerned that the visualizations could be argued to be required for the beta as a driver assist. If so, it could be a liability to Tesla under the beta where it wouldn’t be on final release.
If HW4 and 4K cameras get released on the current Ryzen MCU it will be interesting when the DIY crowd retrofits those cameras and HW.
dbldwn02
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What defines "final release?" Half the things in my 2017 MS are still in Beta.
When it goes to everyone who has purchased it, without any conditions, like them having to opt-in to an early release/beta. (That is not likely going to be the release that they have announced would happen by the end of this year, that will still be an early opt-in release, just without the Safety Score requirement.)
KArnold
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All true. But it's no big surprise. Tesla clearly has abandoned their legacy base. From the refusal to honor the warranty on our yellow screens because we had the gall to drive our cars in daylight, to the deliberate SS fiasco not mentioning the need for new cameras putting hundreds through that nut drill knowing it was futile, to trickling out the camera upgrades for over a year.
Heck, they used to practically throw a ticker tape parade when you bought a car - I've had more attention from Toyota.
I admire you sticking to principle but I doubt MCU1 will ever see FSD, nor will Elon offer a free upgrade. It's a lot easier and more profitable in the short run to just ignore the issue. We have very little leverage. If legally challenged they could claim it's "under development", which means they think about how long it will be until folks back off. Truly a lose/lose for all parties.
Silicon Desert
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If past holiday updates are any indication, then you may only get just more fart variations.
I don't want to agree with you, but it's looking more and more like this is the correct take. Unlike the old days, it's no longer about keeping the OG owners happy. Getting a Roadster serviced is basically impossible. The pandemic sucked for Tesla, but their silver lining was killing off the whole in-person hoopla when you picked up your car. Now it's done with as little human contact as possible to prevent new owners from being able to call out defects in person.
That one Tesla is motivated to get to so that it can pay to upgrade all the remaining cars. Oh wait…
and refund the MCU2 upgrade fees to those who also bought FSD?
Nah. If they end up needing to upgrade the MCU for free to support FSD, they will probably software lock out all of the extra features/capabilities, so all you would get is the ability for FSD to operate. If you want the live-sentry camera view, or other MCU2 features there would probably be an upgrade you would have to purchase.
Tesomega
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this would be only fair.. knowing tesla, they will not do anything as there is no recourse for the customer...Nah. If they end up needing to upgrade the MCU for free to support FSD, they will probably software lock out all of the extra features/capabilities, so all you would get is the ability for FSD to operate. If you want the live-sentry camera view, or other MCU2 features there would probably be an upgrade you would have to purchase.
Tesomega
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I'm glad I got MCU2 a year ago. Definitely worth $1500 back then. Not so sure it would be now, after going from a multimillionaire to a not-a-millionaire
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