FSD rewrite will go out on Oct 20 to limited beta

[diplomat33]

It looks like Tesla finally made the leap to an autonomous driving prototype. I say "prototype" since it is a work in progress that requires driver supervision. Tesla still has a lot of work to get to driverless. But it looks like the car has perception and planning for autonomous driving now.

 

[diplomat33]

He said that those visualizations are only in the beta, they won't be there in the production release.

Good. Those visualizations would really suck for a final consumer version. But they are super cool to show us what the car is seeing and thinking.

 

[diplomat33]

Not sure if this was posted yet but cool video of turning at intersection hands-free.

https://twitter.com/teslaownersSV/status/1319142259086913536

 

[diplomat33]

I am curious about how the FSD rewrite affects highway driving. Is highway driving L3 now?

 

[Microterf]

I am curious about how the FSD rewrite affects highway driving. Is highway driving L3 now?

That is a great question. I would doubt it now, but I would assume that will be the first thing to change as far as experience once it rolls out to the rest of us.

Stupid question, but L3 highway would mean no need for constant touching of steering wheel on the highway and then some kind of notice that you need to take over in a certain period of time if it can't handle a certain situation, right?

 

[diplomat33]

Stupid question, but L3 highway would mean no need for constant touching of steering wheel on the highway and then some kind of notice that you need to take over in a certain period of time if it can't handle a certain situation, right?

Not a stupid question. Yeah, that sounds about right. L3 means that under certain conditions, the car is fully autonomous so the human in the driver seat does not need to touch the wheel or even pay attention to the road. But L3 does require that the human in the driver seat take over when requested to do so.

 

[murc585]

Man, imagine all those people doubting Elon all this time that kept repeating Tesla needs Lidar and that Waymo will be first to FSD...

I would be feeling pretty rediculous looking back at all the time I insulted others who had faith in Tesla to get it done, to have FSD in every Tesla be end of 2020...

well done Tesla, this has changed the game.

 

[diplomat33]

Man, imagine all those people doubting Elon all this time that kept repeating Tesla needs Lidar and that Waymo will be first to FSD...

I would be feeling pretty rediculous looking back at all the time I insulted others who had faith in Tesla to get it done, to have FSD in every Tesla be end of 2020...

well done Tesla, this has changed the game.

Waymo was first to FSD. Waymo achieved FSD in 2015. Now, Waymo has driverless FSD.

Tesla has FSD beta.

 

[whitex]

Tesla has FSD beta.

Now for the big question, does it do more or less than the 2016 Tesla FSD demo video showed the car doing? That will tell us whether Tesla has made any progress in the last 4 years.

 

[murc585]

Waymo was first to FSD. Waymo achieved FSD in 2015. Now, Waymo has driverless FSD.

Tesla has FSD beta.

Driverless FSD in a town in the desert with $150k+ minivans is not FSD.
let’s say it’s not generalized FSD.
it’s an obvious shortcut that Waymo chose an area with no precipitation.

let me re-iterate. Tesla is the first to GENERALIZED FSD. Waymo is pre-beta, it’s only available to a tiny clientele in one town in the desert and you can’t buy a car with it.

 

[zecar]

I am curious about how the FSD rewrite affects highway driving. Is highway driving L3 now?

What's the handoff time for level 3? Can Tesla claim level 3 without regulatory approval?

 

[diplomat33]

What's the handoff time for level 3? Can Tesla claim level 3 without regulatory approval?

Hand off time is around 10 seconds I think.

Regulatory question is iffy since regulations are very different from state to state and from country to country.

 

[diplomat33]

Tesla is the first to GENERALIZED FSD.

Tesla is the first at putting a generalized FSD beta that requires constant monitoring in consumer cars.

 

[murc585]

Tesla is the first at putting a generalized FSD beta that requires constant monitoring in consumer cars.

Yup, keep doubting....this is fun.
It’s Tesla’s first release and their FSD beta will be running & learning on more cars in the next 2 months than Waymo could ever dream of.
Their beta will also be running on cars all over the world, not just 25 cities being driven by engineers.

Tesla will also be the first to unsupervised generalized FSD (aka, useful FSD, Not just a science experiment). 2021 is going to be an exciting year.

 

[helvio]

Tesla is the first at putting a generalized FSD beta that requires constant monitoring in consumer cars.

With all respect (you bring up at lot of interesting topics, seriously you are high up on my own personal rank): call it whatever you want, I call it AWESOME!

 

[diplomat33]

With all respect (you bring up at lot of interesting topics, seriously you are high up on my own personal rank): call it whatever you want, I call it AWESOME!

It is totally awesome. Tesla has feature complete FSD. Our cars can drive themselves, make turns at intersections, follow routes, make lane changes on city streets, avoid obstacles. It is amazing! But I do think what I wrote is an accurate description of what Tesla has released so far. It is generalized FSD. But it is beta and requires driver supervision. I don't think that is in dispute.

 

[JulienW]

Wonder if Navigate on Autopilot now required to be used for all roads? Seems to be redundant with FSD.

 

[diplomat33]

Wonder if Navigate on Autopilot now required to be used for all roads? Seems to be redundant with FSD.View attachment 601145

Since NOA is how the car follows a route and already does it on highways, I imagine NOA will be required for all roads and will just become the default for FSD.

 

[murc585]

Tesla Raj will be uploading his footage in 15 minutes (8AM EST) to YouTube.
This should be interesting:

 

[qdeathstar]

who's making that FSD purchase tnoight?? Lol...save $2k!

I already bought fsd.... but here were videos like this out several years ago... never made it to Public release. Start getting excited when widespread beta ships...