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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking 12.4.x is coming autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass elon rocks fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd doesn't read signs properly fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd stops when there is zero visibility fsd tailgating in city streets fsd very slow at stops fsd will never enable l3 with hw4
fasteddie7
Active Member
It's been doing that for me since 11.4.7. If I put my hand near the wheel without touching it stops nagging. If I keep my hand there, I never get a nag.
PianoAl
Active Member
Are you saying it can sense your nearby hand? It's using the camera to see that your hand is near the wheel?
LSDTester#1
In large quantities Member
Sounds like something some bean counting "Joker" would point out.
FSDtester#1
Large Member
I am not the Joker...I am the Batman.... now I am gonna go cry in the cornerSounds like something some bean counting "Joker" would point out.
You hurt Batman feelings...
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
I haven’t had FSD reliable respond to me looking ahead. IME the gaze tracking has been used in the negative sense but not the positive (I.e. it would yell at you and give a nag for looking away but wouldn’t reward you by cancelling a nag for watching the road.)
fasteddie7
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Yes I made I video about it a while back. It’s been recognizing my hands for a few versions now. What’s crazy is how hard of a time I had making that video. If the camera sees a camera in my hands, it doesn’t work. Even when I mounted my camera somewhere else in the car near me it didn’t work. I needed to have a passenger record it for me to be able to get it on video.
I thought I'd tested it enough to be able to believe it watched my gaze and accepted a return to watching the road to cancel a nag. It's certainly possible I was wrong.
My thinking at the time and still: if it detects my gaze move away from the road, it would make sense for it to detect my gaze returning to the road?
My thinking at the time and still: if it detects my gaze move away from the road, it would make sense for it to detect my gaze returning to the road?
FSDtester#1
Large Member
Omar......surprised he is old enough to know who Phil Collins is.... Or could this be the Genesis of him finally not being first to get a release?
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FSDtester#1
Large Member
Post your YouTube link for people who haven't seen that video please.
I subscribe to your channel and watch your videos. I tried your technique and it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. Might be we both have MS.
Change of pace from v12.4.
With the foliage now fully out here is an example of an intersection where FSD often doesn't turn right. FSD will only turn when I press the accelerator.
The picture is from the left B-pillar and the blue circle represents where the foliage blocks the camera's view. FSD has already crept as far as it safely can otherwise crossing traffic is impeded which has happened. It's almost like FSD knows it cannot creep any more and also knows it cannot see far enough to safely turn so it simply stops. Of course a human leans way forward and can see far enough to know when it's safe to turn. Thats when I press the accelerator after waiting a long time.
What's also interesting is FSD NEVER turns left here any more. FSD now reroutes to another intersection which is fine by me.
I've reported this intersection before on this forum and to Tesla so I find the change in FSD behavior intriguing. Just unfortunate situation caused by the lack of better forward camera views. My bet is once the foliage is gone FSD will turn right every time safely.
With the foliage now fully out here is an example of an intersection where FSD often doesn't turn right. FSD will only turn when I press the accelerator.
The picture is from the left B-pillar and the blue circle represents where the foliage blocks the camera's view. FSD has already crept as far as it safely can otherwise crossing traffic is impeded which has happened. It's almost like FSD knows it cannot creep any more and also knows it cannot see far enough to safely turn so it simply stops. Of course a human leans way forward and can see far enough to know when it's safe to turn. Thats when I press the accelerator after waiting a long time.
What's also interesting is FSD NEVER turns left here any more. FSD now reroutes to another intersection which is fine by me.
I've reported this intersection before on this forum and to Tesla so I find the change in FSD behavior intriguing. Just unfortunate situation caused by the lack of better forward camera views. My bet is once the foliage is gone FSD will turn right every time safely.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
I tried doing what you described several times and never got it to work.
FSDtester#1
Large Member
I have had it work about 30% of the time. It may have to do with lighting or your model vehicle. Also, my IQ is 20 points higher than yours, so go watch the video @fasteddie7 put on YouTube, where he shows it working during a drive for the entire drive,
of the time. In a non MS, it may work like sex panther. 100% of the time, 60% of the time. (The IQ joke was for the 20 downvotes Doc... see you Tuesday for the colonoscopy!)
fasteddie7
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nonStopSwagger
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V12 hasn't learned to slow down for huge puddles yet. Ooops.
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FSDtester#1
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That is a MY or M3... I stated 3 times already it is probably MS and/or MX specific.
The interior camera shows 70% of the wheel or yoke.
I know because I have a MS and have checked it after watching his video.
He has HW4, I have HW3, with MS it works for both hardware versions.
I can see both hands on the yoke from the interior camera.
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fasteddie7
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HW4 interior camera can see the entire wheel and almost my whole leg to the knee
Tired to wait for 12.4 and I didn't want to ruin my holiday weekend. I took 4.5 hour drive to Lampoc to watch SpaceX launch on Tuesday. The ride was perfect. Auto speed worked great. On the last road with 55 mph to Lampoc, the car ran 55-58 mph. When there were cars behind it sped up to 64.
