Hard to be certain, but the software version at the very beginning does sort of look like it states 'FSD Beta v12.1'.
There's not a whole lot to go off of here (short drive) and nothing in this drive was really challenging--so it's hard to really say that it's "not much better" than v11.
I considered that every street in this area has likely been used for training and testing during FSD development, so the fact that it handled parking lots and speed bumps was not surprising.
Yep. Sure wish Tesla would expose some sort of way to crowdsource map improvements/fixes either from a computer or from the cars!
The car did not commit. The driver pressed the accelerator.
Gotta love Chuck trying to increase his sub count.
there are two parts to the question - the first is the law itself and the second is Tesla's implementation and the NHTSA's enforcement.On July 19, 1989, United Airlines flight 232 crash landed in Sioux City Iowa. 112 died, but 184 survived. 52 children were aboard, 4 of whom were "lap children" who sat in an adult's lap. 11 of the children died, including one of the lap children.
While the crew was heralded as heroes for having saved so many lives, a campaign was launched to save children from the unsafe policy of allowing infants to sit in a parent's lap. The proposed solution was to require an individual seat and restrain for each child.
In a remarkably rational review, the NTSB realized that such a policy would increase the cost for families to fly, which would cause many to drive instead, a much less safe alternative.
The FAA estimates that a regulation that all children must have a seat would equate, for every one child's life saved on an aircraft, to 60 people dying in highway accidents.
The proposed policy was scrapped, because rather than saving lives, it would have cost lives.
So, to this day, in the US, children under 2 can fly without their own seat.
An alternative would have been to require airlines to provide free seats and child seats for infants, but, well, that was not going to fly, so to speak.
Running stop signs at full speed is dangerous. Rolling past the limit line at 2 mph, no so much. I expect that Tesla's voluminous data will eventually provide actual evidence on which to base safety decisions, and perhaps regulators will follow the data. One can hope...
(Was O'Dowd's tech used during development of the oh-so-lethal Boeing 737 Max? Both were mentioned in the same issue of an avionics journal in 2020 Link.)
I actually timed how long FSD stops at stop signs last night - it's a bit difficult to get an exact time but as near as I can tell from the time you feel the jerk to the time it starts accelerating again is 0.7-0.8 seconds.
There is a reasonable argument that many, if not most stop signs could be changed to yields with no loss of safety. While this may, or may not, be a good idea, the rules are unambiguous and a self driving car should make a full stop at a stop sign.
On the stop sign thing, it is not clear to me that NHTSA needed to say anything. Their remit is safety, not law enforcement, and the FSD system is not subject to certification and testing.
I probably do what most people do if it's safe and not follow exactly what the law allows to be enforced. The most common traffic violations probably include speeding, using cell phone, not stopping/yielding, tailgating; and each of these can have laws written in ways that could allow law enforcement to pull you over, e.g., "no person shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed in excess of such maximum limits," "shall not drive a motor vehicle while using a wireless telephone." But practically people don't always follow even the handbook-recommended "full stop" stopping or "let any vehicle… pass before you proceed" yielding or "three-second rule" following, and similarly most of the time cops won't waste your time, so 12.x behaving like most people will similarly be usually fine.
Isn't it the case that the early versions of FSD beta actually had a toggle to select rolling stop vs. full stop? Which if it had been kept, would have solved said concern.
Agreed and this is a great point.
