PianoAl
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Mine honks then blares out, "Stay in your own damn lane you filthy animal!"
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd hard and late braking fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
old pilot
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2021 MYLR v12.3.3; v12.3 and earlier did a good job of planning on when to get into the proper lane to make a left or right turn, 12.3.3 does not change lanes in a timely manner sometimes cutting in front of other cars in order to make the turn. I would describe 12.3.3 as suffering from the four P's.
I'm curious about this. I would have thought this as well, but it's been pointed out that NHTSA has never interfered with speed limits. It's why every car can set their cruise control to speeds well over the speed limit. If NHTSA dinged Tesla, they'd have to ding everyone for allowing it.
zoomer0056
Active Member
Nope. Good one though. I can see bunch of Teslas in town and on the highway doing phantom honking.
Other FSD modes to consider:
-Stalking mode - pick the car from touch screen to follow behind
-Hypermiler mode - easy on the acceleration and only regen brake if possible, keep under 60mph at all times for max wh/mi (especially useful on low battery)
-Race mode - pick the car to race against, make revving sound, enter launch mode automatically, accelerate the moment the other car takes off
-Kidnapper evade mode - get as far away and get out of viewing sight of danger as quickly as possible (also works well w/ evading cops)
-Rollercoaster mode - self explanatory
Anything else I missed?
Russian Roulette mode: Turns off the nags.
Big difference: the car is deciding to drive over the limit, not the driver. And drivers not into following the technology may have no idea why it's doing it, or how to stop it.
I asked @elon for these two a few years back, Hypermiler just as a drive mode.. haven’t heard back. ;-0
zoomer0056
Active Member
Mother in-law evade mode. If car senses impending entry, move up a couple of inches just before hands on door handle.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Number that is visible or hidden, next to speed limit sign in the left hand pane.
Chosen setting for manual speed offset in Autopilot menu. Which translates to number that is visible in the left hand pane next to speed limit sign.
mtndrew1
Active Member
I did my FSD test route last night. FSD Test Route
It performed similary to other versions but this time it confidently pulled straight into oncoming traffic, twice.
Once was while it was passing a stopped car on a residential street and the other was during a left turn across a lighted intersection with three lanes in each direction. FSD assumed that because two of the oncoming lanes had stopped that the third and farthest lane would also be clear. It was not and I had the pleasure of a clear view of the shocked face of a Volvo XC60 driver who was legally proceeding in his lane through the intersection. He had a gesture for me as well.
On to 12.4.
It performed similary to other versions but this time it confidently pulled straight into oncoming traffic, twice.
Once was while it was passing a stopped car on a residential street and the other was during a left turn across a lighted intersection with three lanes in each direction. FSD assumed that because two of the oncoming lanes had stopped that the third and farthest lane would also be clear. It was not and I had the pleasure of a clear view of the shocked face of a Volvo XC60 driver who was legally proceeding in his lane through the intersection. He had a gesture for me as well.
On to 12.4.
fasteddie7
Active Member
12.3.3 definitely has a rain issue for me. Swerving in and out of clearly malarkey lanes and way to close to the side of the road driving through standing puddles causing FSD to swerve unpredictably. 7 disengagements on a 5 mile drive. Much different than my usual 0 lately.
PianoAl
Active Member
Based on your spreadsheet of interventions and disengagements, there's been no real improvement. Is that your interpretation?
mtndrew1
Active Member
I’m not sure how to describe it but v12 now fails differently than v11
Version 11 would have never tried to make the turn yesterday where it pulled across three lanes when it couldn’t see one of them. The disengagement would have been because v11 would have frozen in the middle of the intersection blocking traffic because it couldn’t see the farthest lane. I would have disengaged and manually driven through the intersection after the light turned red.
Version 12 doesn’t nervously shake the wheel back and forth or turn the signals on and off for no reason and so it feels like it knows what it’s doing. The failure at that intersection yesterday resulted in a disengagement but for a very different reason than in the past.
Does that make sense? It feels better but fails at a similar rate for very different reasons.
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
I think of V12 failing like ChatGPT: Confidently and convincingly.
In a couple of scenarios, if I was unfamiliar with my local roads, I would probably not disengage V12 because it does things so smoothly and confidently. But because I'm familiar with how the lanes are supposed to work (despite bad painting), I know it's making a mistake.
j0shm1lls
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You guys remember what happened last time when I asked how long before I can complain about being stuck on 12.3.2.1? (We got 12.3.3 en masse)
How long before I can complain about being stuck on 12.3.3?
*Waits for 12.4*
How long before I can complain about being stuck on 12.3.3?
*Waits for 12.4*
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