joeinNFLA
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Very true. Brining up a problem without a solution is called whining! Lots of that on all these boards.
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HW4 - No Park Assist at all
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I am guessing you got the update that added park assist, but if you didn't after a period of time for the camera's to calibrate, an update will be available that will add park assist. Mine was horrible at the start, but is getting better at measuring distances.
Iain
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I've owned my car since 2020 and, up until last week never attempted self-park. My niece was in town, and the icon popped up, so I thought I'd show her how bad it was ( everything I read said it sucks) well, it did an amazing job with no hesitation at all. I thought it might just have been luck, so I tried it again, and once again, it nailed it. I know two attempts isn't much of a track record, so I'll watch it like a hawk, but it was quicker and far superior to our Mercedes self-park.
Now I have it too after latest SW update. Mine is at the stage, where it cries "Sky is falling" all the time
LiamPope
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To avoid confusion, this is Park Assist...
Just the beepy beep proximity sensing to assist manual parking. What you seem to be talking about is Autopark, aka self-parking. Autopark has not yet been restored to any vehicles without ultrasonic sensors, either HW3 or HW4.
Thanks for clarity. Yes I was talking about Park Assist. It is now available with latest update, although the feature is not very helpful TBH. It certainly needs polishing.
GalacticHero
M3-AWD+
LiamPope
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No worries, just wanted to clear up for readers. When every manufacturer invents their own name for various features it's easy to get mixed up!
dietereater
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Ive had my MYP for a couple weeks now and while I'm frustrated about the FSD delays for HW4, everything mostly works that I need. The car is wicked fast and I had no issues with quality on delivery. I do have some quirks:
1. Car regularly says "parking assist loading" and "park assist degraded." Not confidence inspiring and it's regularly wrong. It showed that I had driven through a signpost in front of me when I probably had two feet. Bothers me that it's THAT much off and frankly, I don't trust it at this point.
2. While driving, it regularly says one of the cameras is blocked or blinded. I can't see anything that would do that AND at one point, it was saying the right side camera was blocked, but it was still accurately picking up garbage cans and mailboxes (which it always thinks are more garbage cans.) Is that an HW4 issue or potentially a camera issue?
3. I've had no software updates. I know they're coming more slowly these days, but I can see several have gone out. I've had 2023.20.100.1 since delivery. (Yes, Ive connected to wifi.) Again, is this HW4, or just a quirk?
All in all, this car is an A, but should be an A+. Any assistance appreciated.
1. Car regularly says "parking assist loading" and "park assist degraded." Not confidence inspiring and it's regularly wrong. It showed that I had driven through a signpost in front of me when I probably had two feet. Bothers me that it's THAT much off and frankly, I don't trust it at this point.
2. While driving, it regularly says one of the cameras is blocked or blinded. I can't see anything that would do that AND at one point, it was saying the right side camera was blocked, but it was still accurately picking up garbage cans and mailboxes (which it always thinks are more garbage cans.) Is that an HW4 issue or potentially a camera issue?
3. I've had no software updates. I know they're coming more slowly these days, but I can see several have gone out. I've had 2023.20.100.1 since delivery. (Yes, Ive connected to wifi.) Again, is this HW4, or just a quirk?
All in all, this car is an A, but should be an A+. Any assistance appreciated.
Don't know if this can help. But I had the same problem and I turned off the sentry camera from the safety menu and wait 3 minutes and after that turn it on and put the gear in R and it worked again.
And now Park Assist has radically changed with the most recent update (40.30.6). The lines with distances are gone and now everything close to the car is a amorphous blob shaded gray to red to indicate that you're in danger of hitting something. I bet they took out the distance measures because it was so off and they were looking at a class action from all the people who have dinged their bumper when the screen is telling them they still have 15 inches of clearance. But hey, Elon, go play on Twitter some more. It's fine.
I’ve never had parking sensors in any of my cars and have managed to survive. Out of curiosity I tested the new parking viz and was surprised how good it was. It’s not perfect and I could see where it would fall short if you were trying to get right up against something, but who’s routinely pulling inches up to an obstacle?
Occasionally people have to park in tight spaces. Whether it's a garage built for cars that were commonplace 30 years ago instead of the sizes they've grown today, parallel parking in a city, small assigned parking spots at work, etc.
Personally speaking my use case is such that it doesn't make a huge difference to me, but it's certainly a downgrade compared to prior.
A) I have to pull within inches of stuff in my garage every day.
B) With USS the system was significantly more accurate than it is now, so the issue is they gave people functionality that has now been downgraded. And weirdly enough, I didn't get any rebate for having a car that is less functional now than it was in the past.
I do too.
But by using the mirrors and the focus pattern of the tail lights (or parking lights) I get it done without looking at the screen.
I really don't get how many people are willing to give Tesla a pass on taking away functionality and replacing it with crap. Sure I got by without parking sensors before. Just because I didn't have them before, doesn't mean I shouldn't want them now. I can apply the same logic to many things. Heck, in the Southern US, you probably don't need AC either? All you Minnesotans, I am sure you don't need heat either. I drove a VW bug without any heat in the winter just fine and got by using an ice scraper on the inside of the windshield.
Were does this end? I don't know about all of you but I got screwed when Tesla removed (deactivated) radar from my S that was purchased with it and replaced it with TeslaVision. I also was one of the first in 2021 to be (un)fortunate enough as well to have my car that was ordered with radar receive a car without radar. I then had to deal with the total shitshow that the first iteration of TeslaVision was. I suffered with phantom braking from hell.
By comparison, the removal of USS is nothing, but it is still a big FU to the consumer. Just like removing stalks. What a cluster truck the lack of a turn signal stalk is when going through a roundabout. I purposely didn't buy a 2023 Plaid because they removed USS, and it is a feature I use a lot. Even with upgraded HW4 as a potential plus, know Tesla, by the time it has any meaningful advantages over HW3, HW5 will be out, and it may be better to upgrade the entire car. By then, Tesla will have gone away from any electronic park assist and go really old school and put on curb feelers from the 70s if they found it would save them a buck or two per car.
I park in a lot of different garages and go to different client locations, USS has definitely helped. Sure, I could get by without them, but why should I, as it definitely speeds up parking in a lot of situations. Thankfully my wife's 3 has them or that car would have been beaten to hell already.
Were does this end? I don't know about all of you but I got screwed when Tesla removed (deactivated) radar from my S that was purchased with it and replaced it with TeslaVision. I also was one of the first in 2021 to be (un)fortunate enough as well to have my car that was ordered with radar receive a car without radar. I then had to deal with the total shitshow that the first iteration of TeslaVision was. I suffered with phantom braking from hell.
By comparison, the removal of USS is nothing, but it is still a big FU to the consumer. Just like removing stalks. What a cluster truck the lack of a turn signal stalk is when going through a roundabout. I purposely didn't buy a 2023 Plaid because they removed USS, and it is a feature I use a lot. Even with upgraded HW4 as a potential plus, know Tesla, by the time it has any meaningful advantages over HW3, HW5 will be out, and it may be better to upgrade the entire car. By then, Tesla will have gone away from any electronic park assist and go really old school and put on curb feelers from the 70s if they found it would save them a buck or two per car.
I park in a lot of different garages and go to different client locations, USS has definitely helped. Sure, I could get by without them, but why should I, as it definitely speeds up parking in a lot of situations. Thankfully my wife's 3 has them or that car would have been beaten to hell already.
I took delivery on a new MYLR last week and am trying to figure out the parking assist. After 107 miles, the cameras are hopefully calibrated, but how do you tell? I'm unable to upload pics to this site right now, but what I see in my garage or at a supercharger is gray clouds around three sides of my car with orange or red glows where I presume I should see warning measurements. I also do not get the Autosteer "wheel" symbol on the driving side of the display when I should. Any thoughts?
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