This is wonderful, the car thinks I'm always looking at the road.
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I got my new Autopilot defeat device
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And your mascara looks nice too.
So stupid that people try to defeat the safeguards Tesla has for FSD. That is why those people are involved in fatal accidents giving Tesla a bad name.
K.I.T.T.23
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sleepydoc
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I don't disagree but I've also found the safeguards to be tedious and cumbersome when I'm actually paying attention and doing what I'm supposed to do.
beatle
Active Member
How many of those fatal accidents involved the use of a nag defeat device?
beatle
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The update shouldn't affect that. The cabin camera is infrared so it will "see" through your sunglasses.
The problem with these is now you have a pair of glasses to care for and keep track of. Thankfully, that's already a solved problem.
sleepydoc
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K.I.T.T.23
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Interesting! So, I had no idea that there was an IR camera. I did some digging and came up with an analysis, I would be curious if you or anyone else can confirm this.
You sparked my curiosity, so I started researching a bit, and I noticed some articles referring to IR LEDs that are used to illuminate the cabin for low-light environments, and that sounds accurate. The image appears to be multi-spectral, something I never thought of before! But it does make sense.
I believe it is a safe assumption to make that the camera is multi-spectral and the IR LEDs are used for night/low light only.
So, I would assume, by the images we have along with the video I am posting below (predictive analysis by the vehicle if the driver is looking in a direction with sunglasses on) that the camera can't see through sunglasses, so just keep your head straight. Also, at night no sunglasses... but most of my driving is at night currently and it doesn't seem that the car has any idea if I am looking down or ahead.
Anyways, check this out, curious of thoughts:
Check Out How Tesla's In-Cabin Camera Analyses Your Face
Videos of what a Tesla in-cabin camera sees and what it analyses were posted to Twitter, check out what it looks like.
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beatle
Active Member
I couldn't find any definitive information about the camera being IR, but this picture from a Reddit post shows an IR view in the dark:
Hopefully it works reliably. The IR cameras that Ford used for Blue Cruise, for example, were 100% faultless in my experience. I had no false positives, and it was nearly impossible to "fool" the system into thinking you were actually looking at the road. Granted I only logged a few dozen hours with BlueCruise, but it was still a pretty impressive implementation. Ford uses two cameras in front of the steering wheel, however, and not a wide angle centrally placed camera like Tesla does.
Hopefully it works reliably. The IR cameras that Ford used for Blue Cruise, for example, were 100% faultless in my experience. I had no false positives, and it was nearly impossible to "fool" the system into thinking you were actually looking at the road. Granted I only logged a few dozen hours with BlueCruise, but it was still a pretty impressive implementation. Ford uses two cameras in front of the steering wheel, however, and not a wide angle centrally placed camera like Tesla does.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
not all of Tesla's cars have IR cameras - it's been a more recent addition.
It's not gonna catch me. If I want to play with my phone while driving, I'll just turn off FSD. I'm sure that's a lot safer.
I regularly defeat autopilot and FSD. It’s very easy. I just leave it off. Steered all my life. The way this car works, I’ll be steering for the rest of it. Thanks Elon. Don’t spend all my money in one place.
They are from drivers stepping on the pedal essentially overriding the system.
flstcgranucci
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I believe that infrared cannot see thru glasses. It reads surface temp and can’t see thru glass/plastic. When I took a pic of my face via a thermal imaging camera, you can’t see my eyes
Don’t believe any of that is true.I believe that infrared cannot see thru glasses. It reads surface temp and can’t see thru glass/plastic. When I took a pic of my face via a thermal imaging camera, you can’t see my eyes
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
Regular sunglasses don't block IR. But special glasses do:
Polarized glass affects IR in a fashion similar to visible light, so no, polarization doesn't fully block IR.
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