You got the update and you're OK with others not in order to have a slow roll out? How noble of you!
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You got the update and you're OK with others not in order to have a slow roll out? How noble of you!
Have you received other notifications from the app before (related to charging or other events)?
theslimshadyist
Active Member
I'm enjoying the car without these features and the way that I look at it is when a more fully complete update gets pushed out, it will be as though I purchased a new MS all over again!
theslimshadyist
Active Member
Has anyone outside of the "Republic" received the AP2 update?
Yes. But I think I have this figured out. I have the app installed on a couple of phones and an iPad. Looks like the notification did go to the phones, just not the iPad.
DiamondHands
Member
I'm enjoying the car without these features and the way that I look at it is when a more fully complete update gets pushed out, it will be as though I purchased a new MS all over again!
Same line of thinking here.
I received the update last night. I have since driven almost 100 miles, mostly highway, the second 50 miles during the day. There is still no functionality, just the cameras calibrating error. I dont even have cruise control since TACC was included in the update!
theslimshadyist
Active Member
This is for those who received the broken AP2 update as well as for those who didn't!
You MUST watch like the first 20 secs of the vid and things will make more sense! lol
You MUST watch like the first 20 secs of the vid and things will make more sense! lol
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Sounds like they really checked it out before release! So far we have ZERO reports of it actually working.
For me, this is really an issue of trust and transparency - it started with the salesperson that I did a test drive with and showed off all the autopilot features - and how it could be set to go 5 mph over the speed limit. He then urged me to watch the videos on their website with all the autopilot features. Bad move IMO to push that out there like we should all expect to have cars that do what the video shows. All the promises of the HW2 and AP2 software rolling out in December. For the average buyer that doesn't read this board, all of the sales and support people I talked with had me believing something entirely different than what I am reading on this forum. I learned a lot over the holidays about my new car that all the sales and support people weren't telling me by reading these forums. I wouldn't classify it as a bait and switch, but a very big let down when I actually took delivered of the car on Dec. 28th. It was something I was looking forward to for the past several weeks, until I found this forum. I guess reading this forum has at least prepared me for reality - but did burst my bubble at the same time. I will stop telling other people what it can/may/could possibly/who knows when DO for the time being and just drive it like any other car I have owned. However, I don't give Musk a pass on this one. Even until the last hours of December, he rolls out a trimmed down, limited Beta release to a bunch of his chosen few in California to say "I kept my promise". I respect the guy a lot for his vision and goals, but integrity and taking ownership of a failure is the highest in my book. I own my own company, and trust is the most valuable commodity in business!!!
Sounds like they really checked it out before release! So far we have ZERO reports of it actually working.
Or the calibration process takes much longer than it does on HW1 cars because of the additional sensors. We don't know how much the car needs to fully calibrate. 100 miles? 100 daylight miles? 100 miles with close traffic around the car on a divided highway? 100 miles driving under 25 mph? There are plenty of variables that we just don't know. I certainly remember that with the HW1 cars, some people experienced calibration complete in a very rapid fashion while it took much longer for others....
Does anyone honestly believe this update would not have been pushed if it didn't work?
I believe this is exactly what they had to do to meet the December deadline. Push it out to technically meet the deadline and technically say they fulfilled their promise - but not actually have it work until they finish it - in a week or so. The deadline caught up to them and this was their attempt to keep us all drinking the KoolAid.
OBX John
Autonomous Driving Enthusiast
I've been pretty much pure Tesla / Musk fan boy since I ordered the car, but this Chinese water torture of waiting for drips of functionality rather than getting a clear picture of when the feature that was 90% of the reason I bought the car will come is starting to annoy me as well.
You know what would help all of that? COMMUNICATION!
I'm new to Teslas as of just over a week ago, and I love the car, but am starting to quickly realize just how unpolished the company is. And I guess I should never expect more, they are what, 5 years old? That's infant stage compared to other car manufacturers.
Why can't they be more clear on exactly what needs to happen in order for the functionality to work? Do they themselves not know? Or even some sort of message like "Features may take up to 48 hours to fully activate", instead of leaving drivers on their own to discover they do not work and left wondering and confused on what happens next.
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Here is my question, I'm currently doing a 3 year lease of my MX P100D that I added both enhanced autopilot and full self driving option. Both of which I pay an additional $130/ per month for the features. I'm totally fine with Tesla rolling things out slowly but I also don't feel that I should be paying the $130 until I have both features and they function as described. I also, had a salesperson not mention anything about the delay with AP2. All I was told on my test drive is my cars AP would be significantly better than the one I test drove. I then placed my order to find out later while searching forums about the delays. Also, at delivery at Tesla SC I was never told anything about not having AP but since I had been on forum I asked and was told by end of December or sometime in January. Again, saleman never said it would not be the full AP2 features like description. I'm not upset but I do feel that I should not be on hook ($130/monthly) for features I do not possess. What are others thoughts?
Totally agree. Just tell us when it REALLY will work. I know it's tempting to push the deadline as tight as possible. There is pressure from everywhere to fulfill these expectations and promises. But, I would much rather he say these are the features we will release on Jan 20th, then we will release features b,c,d on Feb. 15th, and actually do that. Not overpromise and then underdeliver!! It's much better to overdeliver on your promises! That is what builds fans and loyalty.
I also really like him to accept and own a mistake or failure. Just apologize, and everyone can move on. Not, string people along and pretend to fulfill a promise and pat yourself on the back and assume or hope we don't see through it.
I've never really been one for apologies, doesn't exactly fix what was already done but you first point is spot on.
I hate this unknown waiting game. Checking the forums, checking Twitter, wondering if I'm getting an update or not. As you said, I'd rather a solid date, that they can actually hit, even if it's a month+ out.
I totally agree with you! The salespeople need training. You would have never known all this if it weren't for reading the posts in this forum. There should be scripting that they must adhere to not to raise the expectations and overpromise features that may be delayed or at worse, never enabled. I was not sold entirely on those features alone, but in your case, your monthly lease reflects those features that you may or may not ever get to use. COMMUNICATION is the key. They could have avoided a lot of this. Just be honest with us, we will respect and be loyal for that more than any feature or egg. Respect goes both ways Tesla/ Musk
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Well nonone finances their car from Tesla so not paying a portion isn't any kind of option. Tesla should however at least give a monthly banked credit towards a future purchase. Your lease may be "substantially" over by the time all promised features you paid for are available....
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