EVNow
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Did you try Waymo - how are those routes ?
BTW, did you get FSD ... eagerly waiting for your videos/reports of the same route videos of Waymo on YouTube.
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Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences
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BTW, did you get FSD ... eagerly waiting for your videos/reports of the same route videos of Waymo on YouTube.
I have not gotten it yet. I was at 99 on Friday, and got to 100 overall on Friday at 9:15pm Pacific time. So perhaps the cutoff was before that.
Daniel in SD
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I don't understand why this isn't cause for automatic revocation of beta privileges. Does Tesla really want people running red lights?
Especially people dumb enough to post videos on the internet of them running red lights.
Ldub22
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So sorry, I should have said EVER in the car you are currently driving. The car you are currently driving will never be 4 or 5, because by the time long term comes around, you car will be obsolete. Good catch!
EVNow
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Depends on the reports / data they get. I can as easily see extension to 99 in 2 weeks.
@Venom Yep, they must really have high confidence in their beta FSD release and yokes (together)....
Ldub22
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Iain
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If you did you would be violating everything Tesla stands for. Well, that and dumb.
EVNow
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I don't know - my plan is to handoff my car to my kids in 10 years - I expect L3/L4 to be very much the norm by then. The car will probably need some upgrades (new computer and cameras ?) - but I expect it to work well.
Lets bookmark and revisit this post in 2030
I certainly hope so. Perhaps naive, but I bought FSD in the hopes that it did work well enough to allow me to stay in my house. That is when I'm at the drooling stage I can get to the grocery store and back. If it's decades I'll be dust for sure.
While yeah, he 100% should have put the brakes on and stopped the car, I'm always curious what the car would actually do if you let it go. I'm not willing to ever do that, but like cases where it looks like it will crash into construction zone stuff, would it brake at the last second or just ram it?
Just took my maiden FSD voyage with a lunchtime trip to Home Depot in the Chicago suburbs. On the outbound trip, did a rolling start on the expressway (e.g. started with AP and let it hand off to FSD at the exit) and then on the inbound trip started in the Home Depot parking lot. Initial impressions:
- Lane changes in both AP and FSD seem much more confident than before. Instead of the 3 blinker flashes before lane change, it will sometimes go immediately. For me, this makes it much more usuable because in traffic 3 blinks can mean the difference between an opening for lane change to no opening
- Otherwise no real changes to AP on expressway, and remains usable enough to relaxing
- FSD on local roads is fun if not unrefined. It feels like a step above the local street AP that was available prior but is definitely something that has room for growth over time
- On the plus side compared to local street AP, FSD does not require a lead car to go through green lights and behaves very similarly to local street AP. On straight line travel, it's not bad and is very doable.
- There is room for improvement turning on intersections. First is that it takes the turns very slowly, so much that I've gotten horns from impatient folks behind me on protected left turn lanes as it went slow enough to get the light to turn yellow. This seems very attainable as the system gets more data and takes turns more comfortably (like the AP lane changes did)
- Also it tends to not make turns as I would, seeming to under or oversteer, getting close to the curb or next lane. I usually end up taking control so I couldn't say if it hits the curb
- It is also difficult to maintain the right amount of torque on the wheel as it turns. As cited upthread, the wheel turns pretty quickly and can disengage itself if you're gripping the wheel to tightly. This will take some practice to feather the grip
- Because of these points, on this maiden voyage I had a success rate of 0% on turns. I'll keep practicing though!
- One thing that my route was unable to test were flashing intersection signs that FSD treated as a yellow light previously. I'll test this on another route I always take over the next few days.
- All said, my opinion is that if you were used to local street AP it seems like a good incremental improvement. Currently it seems to be at the level for single drivers to train themselves how to use FSD on well-known routes, but maybe isn't best to use on unknown routes or with passengers. If I were to compare them, expressway AP is like riding an Uber in that it's trustworthy enough to get me from point to point but might make some decisions that I wouldn't. FSD is more like riding with someone on their learners permit, where I needed to be ready to take over.
EVNow
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In the profile you can set Improved visualization and FSD Beta options separately. So, yes.
I have been using wide release autopilot for probably 90% of my city driving on both Teslas for at least a couple years. Of course it didn’t do turns and the stoplight control “feature” added a year ago was quickly turned off. But now that turns and stoplights work, I expect that 90% usage will be raised to 95% or more. But anyone who is too stressed by FSD beta probably doesn’t like the wide release autopilot -- and my wife is one of those people.
EVNow
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And its so easy to figure out its not working properly. The car should slow down when approaching a red light - and if it doesn't, intervene.
I think some of these youtubers push to the edge to see what happens for shock value.
You can set them seperately, but if you select "improved visualizations" but don't select FSD beta, you'll get the old school visuals.
They should really put the Improved Visuals menu item as an option that appears after you select FSD Beta to "On."
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