Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous Waiting Room

[Jakub1]

Someone on Reddit with an OD of 5/19 just reported getting a VIN

That’s also Reddit, they don’t have the greatest community

 

[mpgxsvcd]

Agreed I’d also like to see a MIC car at 90%+… not 75% as tested to compare apples to apples here!

We’re both cars driven same SOC, drivers weight,ext temp and weather?

I can state that 75% vs 93% is quite the diff even in my 22’ LRboost. I can literally feel the pull difference off the line and especially at the 60-140kph range. So I imagine the new M3P MIC run at 75% cold was definitely not its max output across the range.

You have to know the “Max Discharge Value” or the Battery Temperatures to make statements about how much SOC affects the car.

Assuming that the car is always at the same temperature because the ambient temp is similar is an inaccurate assumption.

I can make a 50% SOC car act like a 90% SOC car by changing the battery temperature.

 

[RodPGH]

I'm in the lucky camp too (scheduled for 4 hours from now). Tempted to smash my phone just so I can't hear it ring if it did! Just kidding. I'm hoping today's the day they all start going through!

I didn’t see your info in the spreadsheet, i probably missed it…

 

[Leoshi]

Just got my Vin. Ordered 20 mins after release. SG/white located near Philly PA. Delivery June 8-14.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

And battery.

Battery is the same in all countries.

 

[jgottsman11]

Let’s get active today! I want to see deliveries!

 

[Jeffro19]

Just got my vin. Red with black interior. TX. EDD June 6- June 12. Updated the spread sheet

 

[jgottsman11]

Just got my vin. Red with black interior. TX. EDD June 6- June 12. Updated the spread sheet

I hope im on the same truck as you

 

[josh62294]

Battery is the same in all countries.

No it’s not.
USA has Panasonic battery which is far superior to the LG battery used in other countries.

 

[viperau]

You have to know the “Max Discharge Value” or the Battery Temperatures to make statements about how much SOC affects the car.

Assuming that the car is always at the same temperature because the ambient temp is similar is an inaccurate assumption.

I can make a 50% SOC car act like a 90% SOC car by changing the battery temperature.

other than tricking the car into thinking we are going to a S/C station, whats the best way to heat the battery on purpose?

 

[Jeffro19]

I hope im on the same truck as you

Yes I bet we will be.

 

[terranx]

No. It's not rhetorical. At the time, there were no "individual owners". Are you suggesting that a service center has no way to manually make a car check for updates or even push the firmware manually without OTA when they were all waiting for it? Or that Tesla, knowing M3Ps have been sitting for weeks, can't make the M3Ps download a critical firmware update that is holding up the sale of cars while updating older Model 3s and Ys Thursday evening through the normal customer OTA?

The only explanation I can think of is that this version hadn't been fully tested yet on the M3P and they intentionally didn't add that model to the queue until the next day. Which is fine. My question is still valid: why did they delay it a day for the M3P?

The service center itself doesn’t seem to have the capability. But the mothership absolutely does have the capability to push firmware

 

[StealthedLuda]

Woke up this morning to a VIN. Ordered 4/23@12:29est. SG on black. Boca Raton FL.

 

[GuyFromAz]

Not to jinx anything, but I just got a text from Tesla (6am AZ). Was scared as hell to open the message for fear of bad news.

“We will be ready for you today”

Let’s goooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Destiny1701]

You have to know the “Max Discharge Value” or the Battery Temperatures to make statements about how much SOC affects the car.

Assuming that the car is always at the same temperature because the ambient temp is similar is an inaccurate assumption.

I can make a 50% SOC car act like a 90% SOC car by changing the battery temperature.

I’d love to see that tbh. Not sure max discharge at 50 is same as at 90 when at ‘cold’ or non heated ‘get in the car and drive.’ So yes SOC does affect the car if you’re not pre heating and just going about your day to day drive.

I’m just stating based on regular driving conditions…I leave the house with 90 or leave with 50-60. Consistently there is quite a diff in immediate acceleration from 0-100 and at the 60-130kph over 90+…especially 95+ when on long drive day. This would be battery at same par for par conditions…non heated.

I’ve never ever felt the same pull at 50% especially mid range in my 2.5 yrs and 95k km driven. Anecdotal? Maybe. I’ve pre heated coming to a SC when the car was at 50-60% before and not sure even then the power was close to what it is at 90+..

 

[mpgxsvcd]

Battery is the same in all countries.

I should have clarified that with “battery is the same battery as the previous generation for the respective manufacturing location”. The battery you got before is still the same battery you will get now. However, different locations will get different batteries from each other.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

No it’s not.
USA has Panasonic battery which is far superior to the LG battery used in other countries.

Same battery as before. Different battery from other countries is what I was referring to.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

other than tricking the car into thinking we are going to a S/C station, whats the best way to heat the battery on purpose?

It has been said that Insane mode will get the battery to optimal temperature if you leave it in that mode long enough. However, navigating to a Supercharger for about 15 minutes is probably the most reliable way to get it to optimal temps.

 

[CHB12312]

Sorry just catching up but did Josh post any videos of the car or its speed runs? Looking for a cool video.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

I’d love to see that tbh. Not sure max discharge at 50 is same as at 90 when at ‘cold’ or non heated ‘get in the car and drive.’ So yes SOC does affect the car if you’re not pre heating and just going about your day to day drive.

I’m just stating based on regular driving conditions…I leave the house with 90 or leave with 50-60. Consistently there is quite a diff in immediate acceleration from 0-100 and at the 60-130kph over 90+…especially 95+ when on long drive day. This would be battery at same par for par conditions…non heated.

I’ve never ever felt the same pull at 50% especially mid range in my 2.5 yrs and 95k km driven. Anecdotal? Maybe. I’ve pre heated coming to a SC when the car was at 50-60% before and not sure even then the power was close to what it is at 90+..

My point is that if you put heat into that ~50% SOC battery it would perform like the ~90% SOC battery if that one is cold.

Here is an example. This is 55% SOC and 122 F vs. 89% SOC and almost freezing battery. The max discharge for the 55% is 570 HP. The max discharge for 89% is 365 KW(~490 HP).

In that scenario the one with the high SOC and cold battery will be incredibly slow after 40 mph compared to the one with a lower SOC.

Now that is an extreme scenario but the lower SOC would have 80 more HP potential. If you just wanted them to be even then you could let the ~90% SOC have a much warmer battery.