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Until they make FSD transferable I am not buying it, not even if they offer it for $5K. It’s a ripoff now and it will be a major ripoff at that price.
Dreams are all we have so dream on. Why stop there? It may go directly to “Meet Elon on your driveway after the event for your delivery”Is it too much of a pipe dream to hope my delivery date changes from "July" to "Pickup at Delivery Event"?
Danlbrau
MSLR 1/27/21 VIN MF443 Delivered 9/19/21!
It’s not transferable? WTF? I wasn’t going to pay for it anyway but that is just inconceivable.
Is my upgraded paint and interior going to be clawed back too when I sell it?
Ribeyesteak
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If you have FSD on your car, it's transferable to the next owner of the car in the event the car is sold. It is not transferrable to another car you are buying.It’s not transferable? WTF? I wasn’t going to pay for it anyway but that is just inconceivable.
Is my upgraded paint and interior going to be clawed back too when I sell it?
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Only if it said June.Is it too much of a pipe dream to hope my delivery date changes from "July" to "Pickup at Delivery Event"? I live in Arizona.
The following means nothing, because a got it from an SA
An SA told me the deliveries would be nationwide.
Feel free to dream however. I would.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
This better not be the main thrust of delivery day.
These constant price changes just make it look like FSD is a scam.
Should have spelled it out for you. It is non transferable to self. For folks like me who buy a new car every 2-3 years a FSD purchase is flushing money down the toilet. No matter how much I want to keep my next purchase for a few more years, there is so much innovation happening in the EV space that the temptations would be too hard to resist.It’s not transferable? WTF? I wasn’t going to pay for it anyway but that is just inconceivable.
Is my upgraded paint and interior going to be clawed back too when I sell it?
sam3194
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EVonly
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Exactly! A lot of people lease cars for 2 or 3 year contracts. I have purchased and sold multiple Tesla vehicles since FSD became a feature. FSD at 10k or 14K could never be justified unless you are going to own the car for several years.
Elon is the first guy I have seen that has been successful at selling a software product for several years that doesn’t even exist at this point in time. That is a pretty impressive feat when you think about it, and I wonder how it is even legal. Those of us willing to pay for the FSD package are paying for the promise of something great in the future that we might not ever get to use, since we will no longer own the car once it is fully functional.
I have a problem paying for features that aren’t yet functional and removing features that were previously included with EAP or even the original Mobileye Autopilot 1. Summon and auto lane change were previously available on basic autopilot packages. Now I need to pay 14K for that? Give me a break! Bring back EAP and bring on FSD subscriptions so we don’t need to own our cars indefinitely.
Sorry for the late night rant, but the FSD package is probably the most infuriating aspect of the whole Tesla ecosystem. We have watched it go from $6,000 to $8,000 to $10,000 and now maybe $14,000 over the last couple of years with very little added functionality. Elon is trying to create a self fulfilling prophecy - the lunacy that Tesla vehicles will not be depreciating assets because of the added value of FSD.
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Danlbrau
MSLR 1/27/21 VIN MF443 Delivered 9/19/21!
Got it. Can’t argue with that, just like not transferring my unlimited supercharging from my 2015 MS.
I think a ‘rent to own’ FSD subscription is the way to go. It would bring in many more customers than a plain subscription model without pissing off all the people who pay up front for FSD. It could still cost more overall than upfront purchase if structured properly.
sam3194
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Danlbrau
MSLR 1/27/21 VIN MF443 Delivered 9/19/21!
So, what I’m hearing is the autopilot functionality on a 2021 Model S will be the exact same as what my daughter’s 2019 Honda Civic has as standard equipment unless I pay up for EAP or FSD. Well isn’t that special on an $80,000 car. The story just gets better and better...
Danlbrau
MSLR 1/27/21 VIN MF443 Delivered 9/19/21!
Finally someone with enough sense to do more than take one snap from a distance.
Ribeyesteak
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Tesla should offer a lifetime FSD purchase (at a higher price point) for all cars in the future instead of this per-diem for vaporware.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Don't know about the Civic, but the lane keeping on a 2019 Accord is laughable, and very poor on a 2019 MB 560. A 130k car.
My AP1 car does have an occasional affinity to become one with K walls and some semi trucks, but otherwise stays centered in the lane and no phantom braking.
Note how I spelled braking.
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