Thanks for an actual reply to my questions. With the "MESS" the MS delivery and now the "who knows what's wrong" delay, previous Tesla owners could be a little more forthcoming when it comes to the company. I appreciate your insights.
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Overall I trust them enough to have an order on a LR X and a cybertruck plaid but I'll take only 1 of them and only after production has been ongoing for a while.
I've seen this show before and I only felt ok buying December 2016 when Tesla finally figured out how to build cars (with less glue).
I only ask, because Apple has done each of those things as well. Problem with a connected world and software that runs it causes all sorts of things. Bad programming can lead to disastrous effects. Tesla isn't immune to it. I think the major reason why many car manufacturers don't go software forward is because they don't want to go through the pains of a bug. Currently Tesla is more of a "cutting edge" car, similar to early adopters of new phones, new iOS or Android, you expect some bumps. I feel like we're somewhat getting conditioned to be comfortable with these types of things lol.
I don't think it's done maliciously in any way (well maybe Apple), but software forward design comes with a ton of challenges that haven't ever been tackled before.
(Btw both Google and Apple can shut off your phone at a whim too haha), and Google just did that to Chromebooks with one simple mistyped character, on accident.
AnselmDante
Porn Stunt Double
I don't understand all the disagrees on this one. They can do all of these things. If at some point government regulation restricts acceleration, they can change it with a software patch. It has been really hard in the past to retroactively enforce standards like seatbelts and catalytic converters, but anything adjustable with a software patch is fair game going forward.
I don't see this becoming a real threat, but we definitely don't have full control of vehicles like we have in the past. Don't think for a second these facts have escaped those that want to make things like speeding harder to do. Lets just hope the Tesla software patch network is not hacked. Imagine the damage that could cause.
I completely agree, I use Android at my business due to the fact software we use in the warehouse runs better on Android devices, Apple I got used to 15+ years ago, so I stuck with it personally.
Phones can be thrown in a parking lot to be left, but transportation gets me to and from, think I'm just looking ahead to see what "could" be coming, If that makes me a conspiracy theorist, so be it.
MFrunkerOG
Active Member
Can we get the moderators to change the name of this wiki thread to “shooting the breeze”?
asking for a friend!
asking for a friend!
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Gee what deep thoughts today…. I hope Tesla doesn’t turn evil and cause the world to end…. 
Why all the speculation on "what's wrong with the "S", but when I ask a few questions based on facts you refuse to acknowledge them?Gee what deep thoughts today…. I hope Tesla doesn’t turn evil and cause the world to end….
MarcG
Active Member
Meanwhile, a new order placed today for a Plaid with 21" wheels and non-white wood interior is still supposedly able to be delivered by July 
AnselmDante
Porn Stunt Double
Compliant people never see the danger coming. That's why we have such noble causes like Facebook.Gee what deep thoughts today…. I hope Tesla doesn’t turn evil and cause the world to end….
lolachampcar
Well-Known Member
I'm f'ing disgusted with these people at Tesla on the sales/business side.
I need a shower.
I need a shower.
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Gee what deep thoughts today…. I hope Tesla doesn’t turn evil and cause the world to end….
How else is Elon going to get everyone to Mars. Also, if you have been reading all this thread, you will know that cow farts are what is ending this world.
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
I know that people are easily influenced by "deep thoughts" so I'll side step rabbit holes of useless concern.
umair239
Member
I agree. It's really far fetched for Tesla to do something like this and not get destroyed by the press. It's surprising people disagreed with his comment though. But when I looked at who disagreed, it made more sense. It's actually quite hilarious to see some people declare full on jihad against anyone who dares question Tesla regardless of how valid the question might be. Makes spotting d*ck riders quite easy. Love it!
Different elevations affected combustion through the turbo?
Wait- maybe that's just the Taycan??
Personally, I would be very cautious about purchasing any used car now with the understanding that I would be trading it in within the next several months. From what I have read, the refreshed Model X most likely will not start deliveries until the tail end of this year or early next year. The present market for used cars is causing them to sell for a premium. I would be concerned the used car market could turn around on you between now and when the Model X is available for delivery - causing you to take a much bigger hit on the trade-in than you are hoping for.
That'll be boring, because then all anyone would ever talk about is delivery dates (or lack thereof)
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