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The entire premise of estimated mileage whether it is based on an ICE vehicle or EV is broken. Everything comes down to how you drive and what the conditions are at the time. This is physics, so everything matters (weight, CD etc.)
To me, it's the overall efficiency of how the entire powertrain moves the vehicle from A to B and what kind of overhead is required to do so. That is a scientific calculation that can be measured and then rated against a standard which should be relative to all vehicles regardless of power source.
Once the baseline has been created, it should be fairly easy to provide standard deviations based on generalized driving styles (light, medium, aggressive).
The whole MPG standard needs to be overhauled. Just my $0.02
I like spirited driving therefore my 180 miles of realistic range is acceptable to me.
To me, it's the overall efficiency of how the entire powertrain moves the vehicle from A to B and what kind of overhead is required to do so. That is a scientific calculation that can be measured and then rated against a standard which should be relative to all vehicles regardless of power source.
Once the baseline has been created, it should be fairly easy to provide standard deviations based on generalized driving styles (light, medium, aggressive).
The whole MPG standard needs to be overhauled. Just my $0.02
I like spirited driving therefore my 180 miles of realistic range is acceptable to me.
So it looks like the crazy push to move the 2023 inventory is over, now my Est. Delivery: January 18 - February 22
zoomer0056
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zoomer0056
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n2mb_racing
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Range at 70 mph constant. Make it easy to compare across all vehicles.
As it is right now, I think battery size is a better predictor of range.
It could be the delta between the amount of torque required to move the vehicle based on mass and the actual torque demand from the powertrain. The closer those numbers are, the more efficient the powertrain.
Since everything is online, nothing to prevent them to advertise multiple numbers. It's not like they have to fit all of this on a window sticker anymore. They can do a city/highway/mixed range similar to gas cars which only have city/highway.
Then online they could list:
50,60,70mph constant speed range at 32F and 85F for example. Those who actually look would see temperature and speed make a difference.
zoomer0056
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So that would be put on the window sticker? Not good enough. Would also need a measure of total energy available for all types of vehicles.
n2mb_racing
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Hmm. I still don't know what to do about my order. I'm going to have to enter my registration info today, because they are going to cancel if I don't. Then I imagine they are immediately going to assign me the '23 VIN that is on it's way to my SC. I could change my config, but I don't want to get stuck with a yoke. Also, canceling and reordering is only $250, the yoke is $1000. There's also the risk that they change prices and I won't be able to go back to the wheel without accepting the price increase.
So, I think I have to let them assign the '23 VIN, wait as long as possible, put the order on hold for 2 weeks, hope that someone else buys the '23 during those two weeks? Then if not, go schedule delivery, inspect the '23 really carefully and find a reason to reject it. That should prevent that same VIN from being re-assigned to me for the billionth time...
n2mb_racing
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I think you have it sorted out, 2 week hold and then if you still get the 23 cancel and re-order.
Suddenly everyone wants a 2023 in 2024.
zoomer0056
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Grumble was suggesting a change to a single metric for all power sources. A basic change to a system. You're answer is, no need to, just do your own research. This option already exists.
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You mean other than I am pretty sure that regulations only allow Tesla to advertise the EPA range rating. They can't advertise any other ratings.
aerodyne
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As I said get your 2023 people, there are only 200 left and they ain't coming back. Just get it!
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n2mb_racing
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You all can have them.
I'd say it's pretty unlikely that anything has changed to reduce the real range. And the 2024s might get the better horn, front camera, new plaid seats, ambient lighting. Or nothing new at all.
I just care about resale, since the '23s started rolling off the line in Nov of '22, so they all will be priced the same.
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