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gadelrosario
Member
Yes, my order details specify yoke steering.
The battery is now structurally far more important, per the initial release, which, I believe, would require new crash tests.
As for “reports” of no yoke for non-plaid, those reports came from here and other random guesses and tweets. I’d ignore them.
Cars that get crash tested typically get damaged a lot worse than that pic. Though I guess there is a low MPH test where they hit a pole or something.
Regardless, May deliveries would be a nice surprise at this point. Only thing that makes me think April is Elon not wanting to have to deal with a discussion about delays on the earnings call.
My estimate still says “-“. Seriously? That’s almost worse than just having it blank.
As for “reports” of no yoke for non-plaid, those reports came from here and other random guesses and tweets. I’d ignore them.
Cars that get crash tested typically get damaged a lot worse than that pic. Though I guess there is a low MPH test where they hit a pole or something.
Regardless, May deliveries would be a nice surprise at this point. Only thing that makes me think April is Elon not wanting to have to deal with a discussion about delays on the earnings call.
My estimate still says “-“. Seriously? That’s almost worse than just having it blank.
Also, in case ya missed it, Tesla recently updated their Media Gallery with a bunch of hi-res Model S images. These are mostly from the website, but the details are much clearer given the huge image size. Awesome Cybertruck photos in there too. 
Tesla Gallery | Tesla
Tesla Gallery | Tesla
I recently sold my Tesla privately for 16k more than what Tesla offered me. In most cases, trading in makes sense so you can offset the tax owed on the new car. Of course, if your state charges tax. In this example, selling privately made the most sense.My model S sold for cash in one day on a Tesla specific FB group. Asking price. 8k more than Tesla. Bought a 6500 beater to tide me over and take out when it rains once Tesla arrives
In 2019, I traded in a fully loaded Porsche Macan Turbo for my P100D. Tesla’s offer seemed really low but I was told they would match an offer from Carmax. I then took my Porsche to Carmax and was offered $5500 more. As agreed, Tesla matched the Carmax offer. All good...
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Nowhere has there been a credible report of the yoke only for Plaid. Tesla has been very explicit that all S and X cars will get the yoke regardless of trim level. My agreement since refresh conversion has stated yoke. Now whether that happens or not, we will see - but it will not be because one trim gets it and a nother does not.
sflgator
Active Member
I get it. I was just explaining to the other gentleman who responded to one of my posts that the yoke steering wheel hasn't been cleared by the NHTSA as of yet. Time will tell if the yoke steering wheel gets approved and we see it in actual customer cars. We've seen many test MS cars with and without the yoke steering wheel. So again, this refreshed or whatever it is MS LR sitting at Tesla Ft Lauderdale, FL seems to be one with a regular steering wheel. And yes, of course my MS Plaid "build" shows it's supposed to have the yoke steering wheel although I would probably be happier with a regular steering wheel (without the stalks is fine).
My thinking is more along the lines of race car driver Randy Pobst and Chris Harris on the yoke...stupid (why change what's not broken?) and probably very difficult for the average driver to maneuver during sharp turns and u-turns. If my Tesla MS Plaid will come with the yoke steering wheel, I sure would appreciate IF Tesla could immediately put out some sort of official statement explaining exactly how the yoke works for (what we all normally do...hand-over-hand steering technique) sharp turns and u-turns???????
Does it have some sort of variable ratio steering depending on speed and turn input or does it just operate like any other regular steering wheel but with the top lopped off?????? 
Sucks becuase I often rest my wrist on the top of the wheel driving on the highway and even around town; I'm not sure if I'll use the FSD (whenever that update actually happens) everywhere you know?
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I get it. I was just explaining to the other gentleman who responded to one of my posts that the yoke steering wheel hasn't been cleared by the NHTSA as of yet. Time will tell if the yoke steering wheel gets approved and we see it in actual customer cars. We've seen many test MS cars with and without the yoke steering wheel. So again, this refreshed or whatever it is MS LR sitting at Tesla Ft Lauderdale, FL seems to be one with a regular steering wheel. And yes, of course my MS Plaid "build" shows it's supposed to have the yoke steering wheel although I would probably be happier with a regular steering wheel (without the stalks is fine).
My thinking is more along the lines of race car driver Randy Pobst and Chris Harris on the yoke...stupid (why change what's not broken?) and probably very difficult for the average driver to maneuver during sharp turns and u-turns. If my Tesla MS Plaid will come with the yoke steering wheel, I sure would appreciate IF Tesla could immediately put out some sort of official statement explaining exactly how the yoke works for (what we all normally do...hand-over-hand steering technique) sharp turns and u-turns???????
The yoke is the main reason I bought a Tesla. I would opt the for the yoke over a steering wheel no matter how hard a yoke is to use, simply because it doesn't block the dash panel. Moreover, I have to believe that Tesla designed the yoke to avoid the problems people are complaining about. We'll see -- maybe I'll have yolk all over my face when I find out that in fact the yoke is the same as that on race cars. Seems unlikely.
I took those pics, and the Tesla tech who showed me around the car told me that they got an email telling them not to let people take pics of new UI and what not. He also stated since Ft. Lauderdale Service Center (dania beach before) is a “legacy story” they get the first cars for the employees to take home and get to know the vehicle more.
sflgator
Active Member
Um...wouldn't it be nice IF Tesla would actually explain their reasoning for the yoke steering wheel (exactly why it's better than a round steering wheel besides not blocking the center screen)and how it actually works (BEFORE people buy their cars with that new steering wheel design that's not, um, ahem, round)?
BTW - my Tesla account still says "MARCH" (2021 nope so 2022 or 2023...who knows?)
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sflgator
Active Member
Okay, great...so if that's the case, then why not let anyone test drive the vehicle? What's their best guess on deliveries of the new refreshed MS then? What's the holdup? Yoke steering wheel or no yoke steering wheel? If yoke for everyone, how does it work for u-turns and sharp turns? How do you do the hand-over-hand steering technique? Sounds like the guys at Ft Lauderdale, FL Tesla may have some inside knowledge, no?
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Um...wouldn't it be nice IF Tesla would actually explain their reasoning for the yoke steering wheel (exactly why it's better than a round steering wheel besides not blocking the center screen)and how it actually works (BEFORE people buy their cars with that new steering wheel design that's not, um, ahem, round)?
Elguapo will be along to give you a yellow card for taking us further off topic with yoke talk... I will just say that Tesla does not need to say why it is better to sell it. It could just be different and its main selling point is the unobstructed view of the dash.
No delivery date for me yet.
sflgator
Active Member
Added BTW - my Tesla account still says "MARCH" (2021 nope so 2022 or 2023...who knows?)
ssv22
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Tesla temporarily halts production of its Model S and Model X
Tesla has not built any of its two most expensive cars -- the Model S and Model X -- so far this year.
WTF. Although the headline seems like a clickbait given the lack of details in the article.
There have been rumours and leaks saying that they will use large casting for the front and rear underbodies, those sound more plausible now that they seem to have to retest it.
cascadilla
MSLR Red/Black/FSD/19" 3/23 RN1146, MF443, 9/27
I think it'll be fun watching people outside of us who've ordered the Model S look at Tesla and start asking questions about this delay.Tesla temporarily halts production of its Model S and Model X
Tesla has not built any of its two most expensive cars -- the Model S and Model X -- so far this year.www.cnn.com
WTF. Although the headline seems like a clickbait given the lack of details in the article.
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