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To keep it in simple terms - g-force acts against forward linear motion.. So, the braking time or deceleration will be less as g-force will aid for coming to a full stop. For acceleration, g-force is negative and car has to work against it.. the net time for acceleration to certain speed will be more compared to deceleration.
EVonly
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This was a fantastic video. Thank you for posting this!
Since the maximum force with which a car can push against the road is limited by the friction coefficient of the tire multiplied by the normal force, it is clear that Tesla is now approaching the maximum acceleration possible within the confines of the laws of physics. The only way to improve acceleration would be with racing slicks or thrusters.
If you do an apples to apples comparison you quickly realize that the standard LR Model S will do 0-60 in approximately 2.85 seconds with 1 ft of rollout. The acceleration benefits of the plaid are definitely restricted by traction at lower speeds. It makes one question the value proposition of paying 40K more for the plaid to gain 8/10th of a second to 60. The clear benefits will be achieved with passing power at higher freeway speeds.
AND, if that is the case, mind sharing your Config, location, Order date? The rest of us will pretend she is not making it up and we see the light at the end of the tunnel.
sflgator
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a 0.8 sec difference is approx 7-8 car lengths in the 1/4 mi, so to most sports car and car racing enthusiasts, that's a SIGNIFICANT difference. Again the difference between an 800 HP/TQ car vs. a 1,020 HP/TQ car (with both weighing about the same) is HUGE. However, perhaps to a "butt dyno" test and how it feels, it's probably not too much difference though. When you're < 3.0 sec for 0-60MPH, it's ALL crazy, stupid FAST!
My '12 GT-R Black Ed (sold in 2019) with 700 HP/TQ running on E85 ran 2.7 sec 0-60MPH and 1/4 mi. in 10.2 sec @ 136MPH...and that was insanely quick! I cannot even imagine what ~ 2.0 sec 0-60MPH and 1/4 mi in ~ 9.2-9.3 sec @ 155MPH feels like with the MS Plaid! Wow...it's going to be nuts!!!!
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Tiger
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I really hope this holds at various SOC levels better than the new M3P, can't wait to see it in action.
GrnSqrl
LR,blk/blk,19”,rcd 8/25;VIN4392; only waited 235d
Honcho7
M3P MSM/black, 6/1 order, EDD 6/26, FL
Miles, you just dropped some blood in the water of the hungry sharks....you better throw in some meat!
I have a feeling this is Miles first Tesla and he believes anything they tell him... Poor guy. He will learn!
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Going from 2.85 to 1.99 to 60mph is a night and day feeling difference on the old butt dyno.a 0.8 sec difference is approx 7-8 car lengths in the 1/4 mi, so to most sports car and car racing enthusiasts, that's a SIGNIFICANT difference. Again the difference between an 800 HP/TQ car vs. a 1,020 HP/TQ car (with both weighing about the same) is HUGE. However, perhaps to a "butt dyno" test and how it feels, it's probably not too much difference though. When you're < 3.0 sec for 0-60MPH, it's ALL crazy, stupid FAST!
0-60 in 2.85s is 0.96G assuming linear acceleration.
0-60 in 1.99s is 1.37G
That's roughly another 74lbs of force against a 200lb drivers butt.
A tire can exceed 1G even without downforce. As it gets hot, rubber deforms and begins to flow into imperfections in road surface varying the effective coefficient of friction.
sflgator
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Yeah I remember my 2008 AMG with about 600HP RWD (12.0 @ 119 MPH 1/4 mi. car) vs. my 2012 GT-R with 700 HP/TQ (10.2 @ 136MPH) AWD...it was a night/day difference...profound!
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
My guess is that she meant VIN's and not actual deliveries. VIN's are coming soon but no deliveries yet. So still good news.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
I wouldn’t even bet on that.
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Kidding! All I know is what she told me. Likely to be a VIN as another poster said. Still feels like a light.
Test drove an S in 2015, loved it and finally got around to ordering one, just as they shut down production for the retool. I'll know better next time!
Actually, his self-admitted error factors are likely going to have his video not age well.
Elon is a physicist, engineer, and rocket scientist; he had attracted crazy-smart others who will all ensure the goals are met. With enough really bright engineers Tesla can accomplish much . . . .
Gray/cream LR, North Carolina, Jan 24. Text attached. The SA has been super nice but info not overly reliable.
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sflgator
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Yeah not sure what she means by "cars are arriving now from the factory?" What cars...M3, MY? LOL. I don't believe any refresh MS Plaid (or LR) have arrived anywhere yet, but let's be hopeful she knows something nobody else does. My Tesla account still says July and I ordered 2/5/21.
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