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Same for Plaid
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Aaaaand that’s why I said it’s an aggressive position for the state to take!
Actually, on second thought (and a second cup of coffee), the position is actually reasonable. CA doesn't tax intangible assets (so SW that one downloads) but will tax SW that comes on a disc. FSD software is effectively delivered with the car when the car is purchased. The activation being over the air doesn't change how the SW was originally delivered. I'm a CPA, though not a sales tax specialist, but I had the displeasure of filing a few dozen voluntary disclosures back in the day.
I think that the FTB position has a good shot of being supported in court.
EVonly
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Yes, but you can purchase the car without FSD software and then pay Tesla $10K after purchase to "download" said software. Why would the downloaded software be taxed in that scenario?Actually, on second thought (and a second cup of coffee), the position is actually reasonable. CA doesn't tax intangible assets (so SW that one downloads) but will tax SW that comes on a disc. FSD software is effectively delivered with the car when the car is purchased. The activation being over the air doesn't change how the SW was originally delivered. I'm a CPA, though not a sales tax specialist, but I had the displeasure of filing a few dozen voluntary disclosures back in the day.
dbtrizzle
DELIVERED
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
There may be advantages to being a late adopter...there usually are...
HumanInput
Plaid DELIVERED 8/4, Red/Cream+Wood/21"/FSD
My take on the response was that it’s because you’re not downloading software; you’re activating it. The hardware and software functionality was already delivered at time of purchase.
That also must mean that acceleration boost adds software that isn’t always present in all vehicles to avoid the same tax. Or, maybe because it’s solely after purchase that also makes its delivery qualify under different taxes.
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Mine was blank Feb-May. It went to "-" then to June 1-30, then to "-" and now back to blank.
GrnSqrl
LR,blk/blk,19”,rcd 8/25;VIN4392; only waited 235d
ericw
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Same. I ordered 3 days ago with a "June" estimate. Plaid Model S with red exterior and white interior. Yesterday morning, it went blank and has been blank ever since.
Ribeyesteak
Member
In the “Tesla owners worldwide” group yesterday, a guy went to Fremont and supposedly confirmed yoke was approved for production. Photo- Steve Washburn
Have you tried calling your SA to see if they will re-instate the old RN?Me too
MissBiscuit
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It’s odd most of us have blank for delivery date all the sudden. But if you go to website to place an order for plaid it has a June estimated delivery. Probably just trying to jam orders in before end of quarter, most likely at least. But orders won’t count towards the quarterly numbers until those cars are delivered. So not making sense why they are all over the place with the deliveries.
Sbaimo
12/15 LR black/white 21” no FSD delivered 6/30
A little birdie told him?
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