There's something wrong with your car. Contact Tesla.I don't know about v10, but mine has gone nuts now after upgrading from 2019.32 to 2019.32.2.1. It's has gone berserk on me twice now. Once with a friend in the car (for the first time) and just a few seconds after enabling AP it started screeching the AP alarm and shut down AP and I think it flashed a red steering wheel across the screen while my hand was on the wheel. With my car (HW3) resting your hand on the wheel in any way does not satisfy it, you have to keep making steering inputs small enough to not trip the auto-steering off. It happened again on my way home while completely stopped at a light while stopped behind other cars. I've never seen it prompt me when the car was sitting at a light and not moving and didn't see it this time, but it suddenly started screeching the AP alarm at me and this time also turned on my hazards lights and put the car into park too! Not fun!
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Nags are more frequent in V 10
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sduck
Mr. Duck
Just keep your hand(s) on the wheel, torquing slightly one way or the other, and you'll be fine, no nags. All it takes is a bit of practice and you'll get it - once you get the hang of it you start to really wonder about people who complain about the nags - did they just get their car this week or something?
e-FTW
New electron smell
Was bound to happen. Folks that do not know any better or wilfully ignore recommended usage make things worse for everyone else. I hold the wheel at all times, and still get some nags now (used to never happen to me). This will be fun.
Am amazed it took so long to get to this point. Elon must be really good at keeping lawyers at bay.
Hold the wheel. With. Your. Hands. People.
Am amazed it took so long to get to this point. Elon must be really good at keeping lawyers at bay.
Hold the wheel. With. Your. Hands. People.
ibGeek
Member
You do not have Version 10. No one does. At best you have a pre-release version that contains a few of the version 10 features.
Not saying that your struggle isn't real. Just don't claim you have something that you do not have. Instead, if you are beta testing this early release version and you feel this is an issue, report it to Tesla so that maybe someone will do something about it.
beachmiles
Member
Who the heck is complaining that we need more nags?? I have to fight to get the thing to not nag me when driving and often when I try to shake it to stop the nag it just throws it's hands up and disables autopilot. 2019.32.2.1 has been pretty good on my M3 w AP3 compared to previous releases, but I think we could use a less nags than this build.
Garlan Garner
Banned
That's not true at all. I have seen the NDA that early accessors have.
Does anyone have a pic of the language of the NDA?
Garlan Garner
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diamond.g
Active Member
I think the nag used to be confidence based. Maybe if they showed on screen how confident AP is while in use, they could switch back to it instead of time/distance nag.
Or 9 and 4 or 8 and 3, which might give enough torque to prevent nags.
Personally, I try to keep both hands on the wheel when I'M driving, but one hand seems adequate when AP is driving.
Garlan Garner
Banned
I might be the only one with this opinion, but....
I don't mind the nags on any version.
Why? For one thing....it keeps the nay-sayers in check. All of these stupid lying articles about people sleeping for 5 min and the car just driving them around is a farce. We all know that without using any tricks that a NOA Tesla won't drive by itself for 5 min while the driver sleeps.
Lastly, its good to know that if I have a stroke or something that the car would have pulled over and gotten me help. In this case - not responding to a nag might save my life.
Anyway.. I do empathize with the dislike for the nag...however I have learned to drive with resting my hand on the steering wheel enough to avoid the nags.
I don't mind the nags on any version.
Why? For one thing....it keeps the nay-sayers in check. All of these stupid lying articles about people sleeping for 5 min and the car just driving them around is a farce. We all know that without using any tricks that a NOA Tesla won't drive by itself for 5 min while the driver sleeps.
Lastly, its good to know that if I have a stroke or something that the car would have pulled over and gotten me help. In this case - not responding to a nag might save my life.
Anyway.. I do empathize with the dislike for the nag...however I have learned to drive with resting my hand on the steering wheel enough to avoid the nags.
DopeGhoti
Active Member
Everyone who sees the Six O'Clock Local Action News segment showing a ten second clip (recorded on a cell phone often by someone driving a car without L2 Autonomy) of someone pretending to sleep at the wheel of a Tesla.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Honestly not sure why that would be true for someone who say leaves their hand around the wheel and resting on their leg in the 5/7 o'clock position while falling asleep.
Seems like it'd be pretty easy for that to provide enough resistance for the nags.
sduck
Mr. Duck
Congratulations on your new car! Once you learn how to hold the wheel correctly while in autopilot, the nags will go away. Practice makes perfect!
beachmiles
Member
Thanks!!! I'm a 42 year old software engineer UCLA math major with an engineering graduates degree at USC and have had the car for 3 months now on a 80 mile daily commute, and check the forums daily. Think Ive got a fair set of motor skills and a brain function to know that we have more than enough nags even in the best wheel holding position.
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sduck
Mr. Duck
Damn kids. Think they know everything. (where's the old guy "get off my lawn!" emoji?) Trust me, once you figure it out, you won't have ANY nags, like me. It IS something you can learn.
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ibGeek
Member
Took me a month or so, but I never get nags any more. Turns out that they don't teach Tesla nag reduction at UCLA. And I'm 49.
Seriously though, there is a sweet spot. I find that it is easier to keep nags away with a slight pull to the left on the steering wheel than it is pulling slightly to the right. When I try to pull to the right I usually leave NOA. I just rest my arm on the door and hang it from about the 9 o clock position. You only want to apply about 1 to 1.5 lbs of force to the wheel or you will pull your car out of AP.
Hope that helps.
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