NRMA fast charging network

[B3AU]

The poor charger at Bathurst is out of action for a bit...

NRMA have accidentally commented on the Tesla Supercharger PlugShare listing;

Hi all, This location will be offline 22nd Dec 2023 until further notice due to charger damage. Please check the status of nearby chargers when planning your route. We are sorry for the inconvenience

A bit of insight from Facebook

A friend sent me this photo this morning. He was using one of the adjacent Tesla chargers when a dude showed up and this was his handiwork. He was reversing up to it when he gassed it a bit to get up the gutter drain, and just banged it over. There is no conspiracy, or vandalism involved.

 

[moa999]

You'd have thought if you have bollards they might be a bit further forward

 

[leonk]

And the award for the worlds most useless bollards goes to....

 

[Vostok]

NRMA have accidentally commented on the Tesla Supercharger PlugShare listing;

The "new" naming convention on PlugShare is absolute rubbish, especially for sites close to each other like the NRMA / SC site at Bathurst. People regularly pick the wrong site to check into, and even "those who should know better" put comments on the wrong site

 

[RichardV]

The poor charger at Bathurst is out of action for a bit...

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NRMA have accidentally commented on the Tesla Supercharger PlugShare listing;

A bit of insight from Facebook

Timely Evie opening then

Evie EV charging networks

Thanks @Ted H for doing this as a public service just to try it out! But the wider sentiment on this issue expressed by some is just bizarre to me. If people really want tap-and-go payments then OK, but I think those people forfeit any right to then complain about the inconveniences and...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[cafz]

The poor charger at Bathurst is out of action for a bit...

At least the bollards were OK.

The Tesla site there is open to all vehicles so only CHAdeMO drivers will be out of luck until it's fixed.

 

[B3AU]

At least the bollards were OK.

The Tesla site there is open to all vehicles so only CHAdeMO drivers will be out of luck until it's fixed.

There's a freshly commissioned Evie site in Bathurst, so the handful of CHAdeMO drivers are still in luck Evie EV charging networks

 

[moa999]

Equally Evie will be the saviour at Mittagong..
The new Freewire units are CCS2 only.

The not so old Tritium (it got replaced relatively recently) has been turned down to 8kW so it will be very slow for anyone on CHAdeMO

 

[RichardV]

Equally Evie will be the saviour at Mittagong..
The new Freewire units are CCS2 only.

The not so old Tritium (it got replaced relatively recently) has been turned down to 8kW so it will be very slow for anyone on CHAdeMO

Evie Mittagong site is also 4xCCS2 so no luck for CHADEMO in Mittagong.

 

[Vostok]

The not so old Tritium (it got replaced relatively recently) has been turned down to 8kW so it will be very slow for anyone on CHAdeMO

Why would they do that? Is the power supply on that much of a knife-edge?

 

[moa999]

Why would they do that? Is the power supply on that much of a knife-edge?

I assume the answer is yes... The Freewire units have pretty limited draw

 

[ZeeDoktor]

Without wanting to trigger a "which is better" argument, is there an adapter plug that lets chademo cars plug into CCS/CCS2 plugs? The latter seems to have evolved as the standard in Oz.

The US version of the tesla plugs is a lot smaller/sleeker than the CCS(2) plugs we have, I wonder why that didn't transfer? Don't know what they use in Europe.

 

[ausevdriver]

The US version of the tesla plugs is a lot smaller/sleeker than the CCS(2) plugs we have, I wonder why that didn't transfer? Don't know what they use in Europe.

The answer is “3 phase power” and Europe uses the same as us (since they have a roughly similar 3 phase system as us). Tesla connector only has 1 phase, hence they can reuse the live pins for AC or DC.

 

[Vostok]

Without wanting to trigger a "which is better" argument, is there an adapter plug that lets chademo cars plug into CCS/CCS2 plugs? The latter seems to have evolved as the standard in Oz.

CCS2 to CHAdeMO adaptors don’t exist.

CHAdeMO to CCS2 adaptors exist, but they are very expensive. However it is much, much harder to go in the other direction, for a variety of reasons.

So much so that no-one makes them.

Don't know what they use in Europe.

Europe uses CCS2 for DC charging and has mandated that for a number of years now. Tesla in Europe, prior to adoption of CCS2, used the modified Type 2 plug like they did here for S/X, so that they could support 3-phase AC power. The Tesla proprietary connector is only used in USA, Canada, Japan and Korea.

 

[leonk]

CCS2 to CHAdeMO adaptors don’t exist.

Actually....

 

[Vostok]

Nice find, but it's a prototype, and so I would still rate that as "don't exist" because unless they become commercially available, then it's a lab experiment.

Note I didn't say CCS2 to CHAdeMO adaptors are impossible, just very difficult to make and get working, as reinforced by this video.

 

[moa999]

It's progress though, if the China factories implement the changes.

Quick search on AliExpress suggests these are not cheap (A$3-4k)

 

[moa999]

Reports on Plugshare that the FreeWire chargers at NRMA Mittagong are not playing nicely with BYD Atto 3s (that also have an issue with Tesla V3 Superchargers)

 

[ausevdriver]

Have they (BYD) given any indication or gotten anywhere resolving this?

I think they were blaming tesla at first, but now it’s another brand as well seems to point towards the car having a peculiarity in a part of the protocol.

Doesn’t seem to affect the dolphin or seal though.

 

[Quickst]

I think they were blaming tesla at first

But rich to blame a supercharger manufacturer when they don't build similar