jackspratski
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i have no choice, wife said AWD is a MUST
Let's hope wife has an extra 14K under the mattress.
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i have no choice, wife said AWD is a MUST
i have no choice, wife said AWD is a MUST
Same here. She must have AWD.
So I told her We will keep the Mercedes 4Matic with snow tires and not do a trade-in; once winter comes, we can find out how well M3 will perform with snow tires. If it meets your satisfaction, we can sell the Mercedes.
The only thing I loss is the HST credit. It let me do either one of these
1/ Sell M3
2/ Sell Mercedes
3/ Keep both.
What can u do, can never argue with the Boss.
Same here. She must have AWD.
Not sure you will really "lose" the HST credit since I've heard that Tesla's trade in values are abysmally low. You're probably better off selling privately - you'll likely get at least as much as Tesla's trade-in quote + HST going this route.
I find this obsession with AWD kinda funny, but at the same time get the whole "happy wife, happy life" thing.
I drove my RWD Model S for 5 years including daily from the GTA to the Waterloo Region for work, to Bruce County and Muskoka a lot and every Christmas to Chicago. Never once was I in a situation where I though AWD could have helped. The MOST IMPORTANT THING is a proper set of winter tires... and AWD ain't no excuse to not get them!
Not to get mired in the entire AWD vs RWD debate etc. It is as much personal preference as anything else. However, having said that, in Toronto there is a hill that runs alongside Casa Loma. Every winter, at least once or twice, that hill gets bogged down with ice, snow and slush and is a veritable parking lot of cars trying to get up in the evening at the end of the work day.
I have been on that hill with front wheel drive and a full set of winter tires and I have been on the hill with RWD and a full set of winter tires, and I have been on that hill with AWD and winter tires. RWD and winter tires- not getting up. FWD and winter tires, it was not easy, but made it up. (I grew up in Montreal and have lots of experience driving in snow). AWD and winter tires, and it was a walk in the park.
Is AWD necessary? Maybe not - does it make getting up steep inclines easier and less troublesome than RWD (with the same set of winter tires) - 100% yes. Is it "worth" the extra expense for the 1 or times a winter you need to get up a hill? Only "you" can answer that question.
RWD and winter tires- not getting up. FWD and winter tires, it was not easy, but made it up. (I grew up in Montreal and have lots of experience driving in snow). AWD and winter tires, and it was a walk in the park.
Ben,I can also relate to that, there is a steep hill from Brampton to Georgetown. Last winter, when there was a heavy snow and the hill is all iced up, lots of cars stuck there; I drove my Mercedes 4Matic with snow tires; it was just a walk in the park, no issue whatsoever, good handling and everything as if the ice is not there, didn't even slip a bit.
How often do I have to do that, may be once every couple of years.. Well, if I am driving M3 with RWD, just don't go there
It's all about the snow tires and while this video isn't a perfect example, it serves to illustrate the importance of good winter tires.
Youtube of a Tesla Model X vs Hummer H2 on a 30° grade hill with snow and ice. It seems like Tesla with less weight and studless tires did it better than the heavier Hummer with studded tires.
Slap some Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2's on and I think you'll be fine on that hill with a RWD M3. I've used them on a FWD SUV for 6 winters in SW Ontario with no issues. Great for stopping as well. I'll be getting another set for the M3.
That guy has way too much time on his hands lol. Ah winter in northern Norway...It's all about the snow tires and while this video isn't a perfect example, it serves to illustrate the importance of good winter tires.
Youtube of a Tesla Model X vs Hummer H2 on a 30° grade hill with snow and ice. It seems like Tesla with less weight and studless tires did it better than the heavier Hummer with studded tires.
Slap some Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2's on and I think you'll be fine on that hill with a RWD M3. I've used them on a FWD SUV for 6 winters in SW Ontario with no issues. Great for stopping as well. I'll be getting another set for the M3.
I ordered mine yesterday, I'm not clear why anyone is worried about not getting the rebate. It's clearly on the Ontario government website and says nothing about when it will be over. Just because the moronic Doug Ford wants to cancel it doesn't mean they can penalize people that have already placed orders. That's basically like bait and switch so I would love to see how they can legally deny someone the rebate when they placed their orders while the program was fully active. As far as I'm concerned they will have to honor it up until the day they actually announce it is terminated.
Slap some Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2's on and I think you'll be fine on that hill with a RWD M3.
I ordered mine yesterday, I'm not clear why anyone is worried about not getting the rebate. It's clearly on the Ontario government website and says nothing about when it will be over. Just because the moronic Doug Ford wants to cancel it doesn't mean they can penalize people that have already placed orders. That's basically like bait and switch so I would love to see how they can legally deny someone the rebate when they placed their orders while the program was fully active. As far as I'm concerned they will have to honor it up until the day they actually announce it is terminated.
I think it was something I saw that was copied into a redflagdeals thread that is extremely long. I don't hang out there, just happened upon it through searching. Can't find it again (I don't save my search history) but I had done a capture of it FWIW. Hopefully legit.
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