Tesla owners report dozens of instances of ‘phantom braking’
New complaints have dramatically increased in 3 months.
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There was so much hope expressed:....
Currently a downgrade in functionality but possibly just as good with less parts in the future. If that materializes, even cars with a radar would stop using it.So... Is Pure VIsion an upgrade or a downgrade?
I posted a similar comment in a different thread, but…Currently a downgrade in functionality but possibly just as good with less parts in the future. If that materializes, even cars with a radar would stop using it.
What are you driving?It seems odd to me that these reports are popping up just now. While I agree that FSD Beta phantom braking is still pretty atrocious, on the highway it almost never happens to me anymore. The vision-based approach has definitely improved with time.
2018 Model 3, LR RWD FSD. So, I have radar but with FSD Beta (got in on the first rollout) my radar should be disabled. Therefore, I wouldn't expect it to be much different from a 2021 Y. I could be wrong, of course!What are you driving?
In particular, 2021+ Model Ys without radar and using cameras only have been slammed for this since they started coming out and these latest vision-only models are almost surely the reason phantom braking occurrences have exploded.
Roadshow put out this review in November lauding the the vehicle itself while being super critical of the ADAS
2021 Tesla Model Y review: Nearly great, critically flawed
The Tesla Model Y seems like the complete package, but its active safety suite is so fundamentally flawed that the whole dish is completely ruined.www.cnet.com
There was so much hope expressed:
But the Verge says:
"The problem may be traced to the controversial decision last year to remove radar sensors from new Model 3 and Model Y vehicles. The decision came after Musk publicly expressed a desire to rely on cameras to power the company’s advanced driver assistance system."
So... Is Pure VIsion an upgrade or a downgrade?
the system applies the vehicle’s brakes when there are no objects or obstacles in front of the SUV
I drive a 2022 MYP and get phantom braking like once every few days. I drove 150+ miles a day. this article is months late.What are you driving?
In particular, 2021+ Model Ys without radar and using cameras only have been slammed for this since they started coming out and these latest vision-only models are almost surely the reason phantom braking occurrences have exploded.
Roadshow put out this review in November lauding the the vehicle itself while being super critical of the ADAS
2021 Tesla Model Y review: Nearly great, critically flawed
The Tesla Model Y seems like the complete package, but its active safety suite is so fundamentally flawed that the whole dish is completely ruined.www.cnet.com
Not all new cars, only US-built Model 3 and Y cars. S/X still have radar. Details here: Transitioning to Tesla VisionPure vision was introduced on all new cars starting in May.
Doesn’t matter. The beta disables radar, and once the stacks combine, radar will be off whether it’s installed or not.Not all new cars, only US-built Model 3 and Y cars. S/X still have radar. Details here: Transitioning to Tesla Vision
Not all new cars, only US-built Model 3 and Y cars. S/X still have radar. Details here: Transitioning to Tesla Vision
Phantom Braking is real and out of control.
Last week driving down interstate TACC on. Nothing near me. Relaxed happy enjoying the car…….WHAM!
it slammed on the damn brakes so hard my wife and I were pushed into our Inertial reel locked seated belts so hard my hands came off the steering wheel and our heads were thrown forward. Almost instantly the brakes released, the car surges forward and out heads are flung back. A nerve was pinched in my neck during that whiplash and now my right shoulder muscle has been tensed up for days.
Absolute bullsh!t.
guess what? It happened again today.
This crap system needs to be fixed, auto braking disabled, or pulled off the market.
How can ANYBODY think this is OK?
Teslas are braking in response to imagined road obstacles
The phenomenon is called "phantom braking," and it's been an issue since October.www.protocol.com
LOL The Washington Post.... it must be true.While we’re on the topic of recalls, there is a large article in today’s Washington Post about phantom braking problems with Tesla vehicles and the current NHSTA investigations into the issue. Seems unclear if this problem is related to sensitivity of the new Tesla Vision system vs the older radar sensors. Should be interesting to see how this gets resolved.
LOL The Washington Post.... it must be true.