Vexar - I'm right in line with you. When I called they told me Dec was still possible, but unlikely. To keep expectations in check I've mentally planned for early Feb. I think you're right: With the Sigs, there is no way you and I get delivery this year. If they surprise me for Christmas though, I won't complain.
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Production Rate (incl manufacturing waves)
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Vexar - I'm right in line with you. When I called they told me Dec was still possible, but unlikely. To keep expectations in check I've mentally planned for early Feb. I think you're right: With the Sigs, there is no way you and I get delivery this year. If they surprise me for Christmas though, I won't complain.
Krugerrand
Meow
Cancellations, deferrals of earlier P#s and those who've ordered 40 or 60's...that'll put you two on the bubble.
Babylonfive
Power12
P#2984 here in Austin, and also not believing all the optimism... it's more like February. Agreed.
Zapped
Model S - PURE EV
It seems the discussion of Production vs Delivery may be getting confused.
TM may be able to produce 400 cars / wk and meet the production dates.
But are the logistics in place / available to delivery 400 car / wk with trucks loaded with heavier than normal cars going in every direction all over North America ? (5 cars / truck carrier = 16 truck loads /day)
I'm sure this was posted already but this is were the next challenge will be and the next round of speculation and guess work as to when those deliveries will take place
TM may be able to produce 400 cars / wk and meet the production dates.
But are the logistics in place / available to delivery 400 car / wk with trucks loaded with heavier than normal cars going in every direction all over North America ? (5 cars / truck carrier = 16 truck loads /day)
I'm sure this was posted already but this is were the next challenge will be and the next round of speculation and guess work as to when those deliveries will take place
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Some of those deliveries will be local and factory pickups, and I would think at some point with greater volume batches of cars should go by rail.
ModelS1079
Member
Production 1079, noted by Tesla yesterday "almost certainly" to complete production in 2012-but delivery not so certain. Interesting, because the math shows I am right on the cusp, P 1079: if Tesla hits it's target of 2700 cars delivered (or is it 2700 Produced?) that's 43 Founders + 1200 sigs + 400 R's + about 1000 production cars = about 2643 cars until...me.
But who's counting?
But who's counting?
I believe it was 2500-3000 cars delivered, not produced. Also, this number was to be delivered in the 4th quarter, not total deliveries. I don't recall how many cars were delivered before the 4th quarter, but I think is was somewhere around 370.
I'm P983, so I'm pretty close to you. Configuration might make some difference (mine is a P85), but I think the biggest bottleneck will be with the delivery process. I suspect that production cars (Rs and Ps) are being built, and have been for at least a week. However, only a small handful have been given a VIN or delivery window, and those might be special circumstances (e.g., the need for an early VIN to secure financing). Thus, once all the U.S. Sigs have been delivered, we will probably see a lot of notices going out -- Canadian Sigs and Rs, most likely. I just wonder whether they will have the staff to get all of those cars delivered individually and then deliver another 1600+ in December.
ModelS1079
Member
I can not help but doubt they can deliver them all, and of course I hope I am horribly wrong. Most notably, the thought of well-over one-thousand Model S's riding trucks across the country, landing in driveways across America, and flying across US Highways is pretty sweet.
I'll just point out that shipping isn't a problem. Tesla contracts with shipping companies, and the Model S is a tiny fraction of the number of cars shipped around the country each day. Delivery specialists I suppose could be a problem, but Tesla has always intended to ship this number of cars, so it's not like they should be surprised.
ModelS1079
Member
dflye
S Sig Perf 414, VIN 814
For me at least, vehicle delivery and DS visit weren't on the same day, which should give them more flexibility to deliver a bunch of vehicles in an area at roughly the same date, and then have the DS spend a few days touring the area visiting the new owners. That would seem a lot more efficient than having the DS coordinate with one or more delivery trucks and owners at the same time.
Sparrow
S105/ Roadster 189
The only potential problem of the DS not being there at delivery would be if there was a problem with the car that the truck driver wasn't familiar with. I was glad my DS was there when I picked up my car a couple miles from my house and the car had 0 miles of range left. I would not have wanted my car to lose all power on my very first drive of a car I was totally unfamiliar with. Things can still go wrong with the car while traveling accross country in a truck. If Tesla had all corporate truck drivers that were trained in the car enough to give basic instructions, that might be a different story, but then they border on becoming a DS themselves.
dflye
S Sig Perf 414, VIN 814
Yeah, there is that... would only make sense for a home delivery, where the vehicle could likely be garaged until the DS shows up. Other issue being that the truck driver (at least in my case) didn't have the temp registration or any other paperwork on the vehicle, making it a bit more dicey to drive around before the DS shows up!
Borrowed the plate off my old car for driving around until the DS arrived, not exactly making it legal to drive around, but less likely to get pulled over. :wink:I think Tesla has been surprised by a lot of things they thought would be easier than they actually are, and that they may not originally have had a contingency plan built in for a lot of their operations that aren't going quite as expected - a plan for failure did not exist, and left them scrambling when something didn't go right
(it sounded more fluid in my head than it looks typed)
adurstewitz
P3853, VIN3062
The only problem with a Tesla person actually delivering the car, and paper work, is that's an 'in state' sale. Therefore Tesla will be violating the 3 tier law.
Right. I'm planning to do the same thing - pick up the car from the Tesla Service Center in Toronto. There's a train station 5 minutes from my house, so I can hop a train and come back with a Model S. A road trip will be a great way to familiarize myself with the car.
When I mentioned that to my Ranger at the store opening on Friday, his response was, "for sure you'll get the car faster that way". It'll probably help Tesla out, too. With the late start, and their desire to deliver all the Canadian Signatures this year, the delivery schedule is going to be pretty compressed.
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