Thinking back to tesla’s mission. Thinking back to which model was used to advance that vision. Seems the mission has now changed and its all about the profit.
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Refresh Model X & S Waiting Room - AUSTRALIA (Orders cancelled by Tesla May2023)
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Given elon has stated that they now only make s and x for nostalgic reasons, I’d suggest the chances of these models being fully cancelled is stronger than RHD coming back
Nothing would surprise me with Tesla.
I did wonder if the final price was going to be well over the price they took reservations at and this was a nice way out for them. Get customers to refund their reservations and buy a 3 or Y.
The $3000 discount offered to cancelled orders will get some customers to buy a 3 or Y they can deliver now.
Then maybe bring an updated S or X in a year or two to RHD markets at far higher prices they are not locked into.
S and X needs a massive increase in spec / comfort / features to compete at a higher price, especially in a year or two when the big euro brands have a large number of well developed options.
It is a mechanical design issue. Munro did a tear down, and unlike the pre refresh S and X or the 3 and Y, the updated S and X firewalls never had any hardpoints to pass a steering column through. The fact that when Tesla launched these cars they said Australian deliveries would start in March 21 is an outright lie. It was not possible and the process would require a new stamp or modification to the existing stamp.
That's super shifty business practice, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised. Almost 3 years and no updates, then a cancellation is bad business and goodwill with their most loyal RHD customers.
I’ve watched Munro’s tear down videos. Can you post where he mentions this. He does mention that the steering should be electrical as opposed to mechanical but that’s all I can find.
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I assume you're referring to the Tweet that I believe originally came from TOCWA
I'm no engineer, but equally the 3/Y is far from symmetrical, and if you look just up-left to their big X on the S/X there is a penetration that does have a matching hole. No doubt more engineering work would be required but I suspect it's more that the $s just don't make sense.
It's also interesting that the UK emails said not for the "forseeable future"
With the massive waitlist on the US CT, I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar for RHD CTs
It’s just cost cutting, they don’t want to modify the stamp pure and simple. High end manufactures do it. SF90, 992 GT3 RS, 765LT etc etc and these cars are produced in far lower volumes.
EcoCloudIT
Active Member
I absolutely feel this way, without the early buyers of the S (which for Australia I was one, and then the X within a year of it release in Oz) Tesla would have not been able to make the 3. Hell, we as a family ditched all ICE and went all in EV, sold dozens of S’s, numerous X’s and a crap load of 3’s for Tesla…and Tesla can’t even modify the S/X even at an increased cost to us for RHD…no, they just couldn’t be stuffed, so now neither do I about Tesla.
We got told a number of times, including a big thank you from Musk at the 3 release to S buyers, and to then abandoned us point blank (especially learning from some of the points mentioned above) makes me more and more sickened.
I am driving the EQE Wednesday, @paulp if the wife let’s me I’ll get the 53, if she doesn’t I’ll just get the 300 with Air as they have a black one in stock and ready to go. I 100% know if I go the EQE then the wife will go the EQE SUV as soon as it’s available.
Sad as I have dearly liked the Tesla brand, but their s$&t house communication and now lack of professionalism how they have handled this cancellation of RHD makes me not want to do business with Tesla anymore.
Maybe I’ll calm down in a few days and change my mind, but I have been red hot angry for longer than I normally would.
Well if this episode hasn’t convinced anyone, Tesla needs a new CEO and has so for some time. I’ve thought so for the last 3 years minimum. Elon is now a greater liability than asset to Tesla. For a start, any company the size of Tesla should have CEO whose sole focus is that company, 100%. No side projects. No vanity projects that have nothing to do with your core mission. No being CEO of other companies. If you can’t dedicate your life to Tesla 100%, the Board should get rid of you and find someone who can do that.
Add to that Elon becoming increasingly unhinged, you have an otherwise brilliant car company with no coherent vehicle development strategy (S3XY was a great strategy, but then Cybertruck and Semi look like random dart-throws) with an increasing number of misses (Roadster 2 might never see the light of day, FSD in perpetual Beta, S/X cancelled in RHD markets, Cybertruck might be released in LHD markets in volumes 5 years after it was announced, Powerwall 2 is now 7 years old, Optimus WTF).
If the mooted Model 2 is announced later this year or next year, that is the development Tesla should have begun 5 years ago. Then branch out into other vehicle form factors that make sense under an overarching strategy.
Founders are great at founding companies (and Elon isn’t even really a founder), they are sometimes great at turning those companies into world-changing enterprises, but truly great founders recognise their own limitations and know when to step back and hand the reins over to someone else.
Add to that Elon becoming increasingly unhinged, you have an otherwise brilliant car company with no coherent vehicle development strategy (S3XY was a great strategy, but then Cybertruck and Semi look like random dart-throws) with an increasing number of misses (Roadster 2 might never see the light of day, FSD in perpetual Beta, S/X cancelled in RHD markets, Cybertruck might be released in LHD markets in volumes 5 years after it was announced, Powerwall 2 is now 7 years old, Optimus WTF).
If the mooted Model 2 is announced later this year or next year, that is the development Tesla should have begun 5 years ago. Then branch out into other vehicle form factors that make sense under an overarching strategy.
Founders are great at founding companies (and Elon isn’t even really a founder), they are sometimes great at turning those companies into world-changing enterprises, but truly great founders recognise their own limitations and know when to step back and hand the reins over to someone else.
Yes yes and yes to all of this, including the calming down period needing a bit longer
Tiger
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The simplest solution is to move to a LHD country.
johnchidgey
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No. The simplest solution is to buy a different brand EV. Much cheaper too.
And hopefully by the time you take delivery, there will be more Superchargers open (and more revenue for Tesla).
EcoCloudIT
Active Member
I can buy an Merc EQE that I can pick up Wednesday where 95%+ of charging occurs from my roof top solar (either at primary home or coast home). On the odd trip I do where I need a Supercharger there is now other options.
I am not going to go from Tesla lover to hater, but the lion's share of the profit they got from me may well just evaporate out the door...
Oh, and alternative fast charging options have been growing faster than Tesla's Supercharger promises (here in Australia).
raynewman
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Blue heaven
Fair Dinkum Tesla
The right hand drive Tesla Model X and Model S are cancelled: It’s time to move on
Many reservation holders are upset by Tesla's decision to cancel the RHD versions of the Model S and Model X. But it's not all bad.
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