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I can only imagine the reasons why, and none of them good.No, the tech said the standard is 10% below fleet-wide average at the current mileage.
But, they would not print this out or let me take a screen shot
No, those cars can still supercharge for a fee. Tesla did not disable supercharging.Tesla removes 'free unlimited Supercharging' from its used cars - Electrek
Interesting, you think that Tesla did this move to prevent what you all are talking about? Li-Plating?
Waiting... I believe I gave a few members the email address to my Reuters contact, Alexandra Sage. Hopefully she'll be into this.Tesla is walking on a very thin ice. It takes one mainstream journalist to make a story about this ant sh*t hits the fan.
Unfortunately, I believe one or more lawsuits may be needed to answer to those questions.I hope you are right on that.
"thorough testing" from Tesla?
I don't think my case is that specific based on what I've seen, it's pretty similar to others with the same degree of loss. But even if it is, is it possible for a manufacturer to drag the warranty period to its expiration date by prescribing painkillers in meantime? I believe so. It's in their best interest, but not mine. Furthermore, I've not read anywhere that the software updates are forever. What does an owner with no painkiller who is also out of warranty, the same warranty which would have resulted in no need for the painkillers if it would had applied earlier, would do? (Perspective: my car is 4 years old with only 43K miles, with the projection of much less than the double amount in 8 years)
Again, a touchy topic.
My reply was more aimed at DJRas than at you.
So you say SCs can do capacity restoration? First time I see this mentioned.
Why not simply issue a dashboard warning to ask the customer to bring their car in for service / battery replacement?
Why no message in the dashboard? Very good question!
... condition Z (benign) ... condition X (worrying) ...
... but since condition Z looks like super-X ...
... so if somebody at the SeC tells you, your battery is fine, they might not be fully informed as to the current situation.
Maybe you track a certain voltage bump and X creates a very tiny one. Z on the other, which you never saw or noticed, creates a bump 100x larger, so your new X-detection algorithm thinks it's X on steroids instead of detecting it as benign Z.@u1e85d5, now, you lost me here. If X is stronger than Z, how can Z look like super-X?
You're technically right. But I wouldn't necessarily say, Tesla lied to somebody, if they gave an uninformed, wrong answer. It shouldn't happen, I think we all agree on that, but lying means intent for wrong doing.No, if the SC tells you your battery is fine, that's as official as it can get, even if the owner, like yourself, does not agree to its validity. You can't get a battery health check report from the head of Tesla battery engineering department, can you? That's not how service requests work: through the Service Centers.
The voltage curve is far from linear. At 4.1V you're close to 80% SoC:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...cell-versus-State-of-Charge-28_fig5_289994303
2) At the same time, Tesla has stated that the goal of the infamous update was to “protect the battery and improve battery longevity” and the range loss has affected only “a small percentage of owners”
I certainly agree that the internal communication falls well short of adequate.
I also read, on here (yes I know it’s a huge thread) that battery restrictions certainly can be reversed, almost just like that. The post was actually someone that had had restrictions placed on their car, their battery was replaced, the restrictions were still in place, and they were subsequently removed, I think remotely, or at least at a Service Centre. But the point being, it was done locally and didn’t need to wait for a fleet wide update. I accept they at be different sorts of codes etc, but at least it gives (me) hope.
Perhaps that would be the best for the owners with the problem. Tesla had enough time to explain what is the problem and how they will solve it.
I’m very happy my P85D has not the problem up to now ... but nobody knows what may happen the next time
I have been contacted by Reuters' Transportation Correspondent
More to follow soon I hope.
And they're all in this thread amazingly!!!
How many do you guys think are affected? I would guess between 50-100 cars.
So you say SCs can do capacity restoration? First time I see this mentioned.
I agree completely
See sttached... the knee in the final cliff is 2019.16.2 release