how to get it? I currently have V10.2 and version 2020.48.37.1, Model S85 2014 year, recently replaced battery with remanufactured one under warranty. Charging still slow, capacity caped. I'm in Europe and I also have CCS upgrade. To what version I should downgrade and not to loose CCS chargning (with ccs adapter).
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Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
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aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
You can't. Tesla could do something like you suggest, but they won't.
What is your current capacity of your pack in KwH or in kilometer rated range?
Mine is in my signature.
Here in Europe are some "3d party" companies whom provided e.g. emmc repairs, some of them do perform software downgrades themselves or have business relations to someone capable.
Alas, IMHO you need to keep in mind:
AFAIK Tesla designed the firmware update process to either install a newer or reinstall the same version.
AFAIK Tesla designed the service software known as "toolbox2" to either install a newer or reinstall the same version.
AFAIK the downgrade performed by a 3rd party utilizes a (security) flaw in the Tegra architecture by physically connecting a (linux based) computer through the diagnostic port below of your CD after you removed the chubby. It allows the 3rd party to patch the firmware after download/extraction and before installation to include remote access to the linux shell by said 3rd party, allowing remote e.g. tracking and unlocking/starting your Tesla.
Additionally, the firmware version history is shared with Tesla as part of the standard data exchange during normal operation.
Which implications this could have to any remaining warranty e.g. for your HV battery or drive unit is yet unknown.
Lastly I've found this thread from Germany were someone is describing the limitations of using 2019.12.1.1, here are some examples:
- SuC in car or app doesn't show available/total number of stalls anymore since March 2021
- CCS charging at SuC or 3rd party charger is functional
- SeC in Europe are known to enforce updates before service/repair in several steps and probably charge for the time researching and preforming said updates
85er V9 - Firmware 2019.12.1.1 oder davor - Erfahrungen
Hallo! Mein Model S 85 wäre von #batterygate, #chargegate, #draingate bzw #pumpgate voll betroffen. Aber ich bin erst mit 2018.50.6 und anschließend bis heute mit 2019.12.1.1 unterwegs. In diesem Thema möchte ich meine Erfahrungen über die Zeit teilen. Z.B. am SuC v2 & v3, an „wilden“ CCS und...
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It takes time to BBQ a skunk properly. I wonder if they subpoenaed and received all the info the Feds required of Tesla.
Whiteblaze
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Unfortunately, according to this, my supercharging history only goes back as far as Feb 2017. I'm guessing that's because that's when they started thinking about charging fees for usage, and before that, they didn't keep track at all.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
SMT can see charging totals and total energy used, from about 2014.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Example for my car as of today:
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Does regen counts as DC charge? I do not think it should since it is short durations.
aerodyne
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DJRas
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Talk to Michael Kluge in Germany.
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TESLA monitoring, longterm statistics for personal usage, TESLA statistics, TESLA Fahrtenbuch, TESLA driver's log, ScanMyTesla, ScanMyT3sla
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DJRas
Member
Well... NOW is the best time to sell a used Tesla S. The demand has spiked with the delay in delivering the new version. Prices have jumped $10k from what I have seen.
DJRas
Member
Here are my stats at 185,535 miles.
46 MWh on Supercharger
16.4 MWh AC charging
22.8 MWh regen
70. 0 kWh remaining from 81.7 initially.
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JRP3
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How about the opposite of voltage limiting? 60kWh cars with higher than normal max cell voltage.
BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
Sounds to me like they picked a small set of guinea pigs for some kind of testing.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Interesting. However, I'll bet many now avoid charging to more than 78%, because the pumps come on at 100%.
Even fewer charge to much over 90% because of the time it takes, and the loss of regen.
Dye to the asymptotic behavior of the voltage/SoC curve, does not take much to bleed off a tenth of a volt.
My guess is if you charge to 90% or less, not a problem unless you start at the top of a big hill.
BrownOuttaSpec
Active Member
Yeah, but this is affecting "60" pack cars and I bet they need to charge to higher SoC due to their smaller pack sizes. So those owners may charge to a higher SoC more often just to make it from point A to B. And those are the packs that have a more limited warranty:
"Your vehicle’s Battery and DriveUnit are covered under this Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty for a period of 8 years,unlimited miles/km, with the exception of the 60 kWh battery which is covered for 8 years or125,000 miles/200,000 km, whichever comes first"
Very strange findings indeed
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