I'm not aware of any V2 to V3 upgrades. I don't think it is a simple equipment swap, as the wiring/pairing is different. (4 stalls to one cabinet instead of 2 stalls to a cabinet.) So it would likely require ripping it all out and rebuilding it, including the underground conduits. (Likely require a lower gauge wire as well.)
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Supercharger - Woodburn, OR
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Sadly when I had trouble it was neither a busy nor a hot day. There was only one other car there. The fact that the connector crackled when I went to remove it told me it was just worn out. Given that it's the only time I've run in to a connector in such shape, I suspect Tesla generally keeps up with connector wear, and it was an exception. I'll be going through this area in a few weeks and will report back if I see this sort of issue again.
Besides some early testing locations at Tesla/SpaceX facilities and Kettleman City, they recent(ish)ly did it at the site near the JFK airport in Brooklyn, NY. But, yeah, it basically never happens. 99% of the time they just install new V3 hardware alongside.
CharleyBC
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The only one I recall encountering was Winnemucca, NV, where they added new V3s to the existing V2s, increasing total capacity. (I had the sense most folks aren't aware of the V2/V3 distinction, since 3/4 of the V2s were busy, and only one V3 was.)
I have had people pull in and go right to the stall paired with mine at an empty Supercharger site. Most people are not the sort of nerds that we are. We're on a forum on the internet. That's not the normal way.
Mrbrock
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Madonna Inn at SLO, CA has V2 with V3 expansion. 18 total stalls.
Electrical was approved on 6/1 but no movement otherwise. A note on the permit site says Do Not Issue until licensed professional is added to the permit application.
Mrbrock
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Mrbrock
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That is what the permit above states. Post 279. 4 additional stalls. More are always welcome.
So adding one v3 cabinet? Do we know if the permits talk about a second utility transformer installation, or is there enough capacity from the existing one to power the 8 v2 stalls, plus 4 new v3s? The transformer is the long lead item, as everyone here knows.
I just read back through this whole thread. The original construction pictures were very interesting - totally different style than what we see today. I found a picture on PlugShare from 2019 suggesting this is a 500 kVA transformer. If so, this site is basically at the limit, so it'll be interesting to see what ends up happening.
I've started wondering if Tesla Energy should start building their own transformers, and offering them to the PoCos at cost, to reduce lead times.
Mrbrock
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It won’t reduce lead times if they still need to inspect and turn on. I don’t the the transformer is the problem. It’s the electric provider having the time to not only install, but then confirm it works and turn on power to the site.
They don’t talk about a transformer per se but they are being charged fees based on a new 601-1000 amp service. Safe to say new service means new transformer. Question becomes, are they doing a 1000 amp service and combining it for 8 V2 and 4 V3. 3 phase 480 @ 601A is 499.7 kVa. Sounds like another 500kVa transformer or a 1000kVa transformer to power both.
brainhouston
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im genuinely curious whats going on in their brain...
wanna socialize? scared? OCD?
pdx_m3s
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Would be nice if they put it a sidewalk or something that connects the SC site with Red Robin and the rest of the outlets. It’s a huge pain with a stroller.
Mrbrock
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It says 4 new at existing station so likely they will add 4 stalls immediately adjacent to the south. A sidewalk connecting to Red Robin would require approval by the owner of that property.
pdx_m3s
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Well yeah, that goes without saying. Perhaps they prefer the eroded muddy dirt path connecting to Red Robin.
Just had lunch at Arby’s and there is a pile of hardware sitting in the parking spots to the right (as you are facing them) of the existing stalls. Includes 4 precast pedestal bases, and boxes for 4 v3 pedestals. Couldn’t come at a better time if they get these done before the holiday travel rush. Even midday on a Friday there were never less than 5 of the 8 stalls occupied while we were eating, and we weren’t charging. Rapid turnover too… at one point there were three cars either pulling in or out of a spot at the same time. I think the most we saw was 7 of 8 in use.
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The existing stalls are still available right? If that is the case, then no, it should remain a red dot. When the new stalls open that information should be updated.
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