Superchargers in Australia

[moa999]

help get Dunedin into the top 5 for them

Doesn't really matter. It got added as a Coming Soon in Q3 site recently anyway.

 

[Chuq]

Does anyone know who "South Melbourne EV Club" is? Trying to work out which is happening out of either:

(a) they have inside information on the Apollo Bay supercharger location
or
(b) they're adding incorrect info to Plugshare

 

[Quickst]

South Melbourne EV Club

I don't believe that entity exists as an organisation in Ev related social media - in so far as I can't find them.

So 2 possibilities: they work in the Local council and have inside knowledge and are hiding their true identity or,
They are just speculating with the location and put the Apollo Bay proposed location where it is only because its the closest visible car park to the yellow star location in the Tesla SC maps (which is at the blue bus stop icon), and there is angled parking on that part of Great O Road

The exact spot indicated by the Plugshare teardrop suggests the Hardy St foreshore parking area or the overflow gravel parking area - where the white ute with the trailer is in Google Maps street view. In my view that would not be a good spot in the context of the wider community's use of the area. A SC location should not negatively impact on available amenity of the town. If I lived in the town and that site was chosen, I would be writing letters in protest to the Local council.

 

[moa999]

Would be so much easier if Plugshare had a simple rule of no photo of a charger or charger under construction, no new addition.

My other recent peeve is Plugshare allowing sites to be added with "Please see xx app for up to date pricing details". Far better to have a price that might be a little out of date than no information at all.. Mods of the FB forums refused to approve a question being asked on that topic.

 

[B3AU]

My other recent peeve is Plugshare allowing sites to be added with "Please see xx app for up to date pricing details". Far better to have a price that might be a little out of date than no information at all.. Mods of the FB forums refused to approve a question being asked on that topic.

It would be nice if more networks fed this data to PlugShare, like Evie, bp pulse and Chargefox do.

*glares at Tesla, etc*

 

[Vostok]

Would be so much easier if Plugshare had a simple rule of no photo of a charger or charger under construction, no new addition.

Even betterer would be:

• Only verified network owners (e.g. Tesla, Evie, NRMA etc) can upload new station information for their own network. Individuals would not be able to. This restriction is already in place for editing such locations (e.g. only Tesla can edit a Tesla entry in Plugshare).
• For all other stations, individuals can only add a location if the GPS location of the device they are using to create the entry is within 200m of the location they are trying to add. And I agree - also upload of a photo is required, with the GPS metadata in the photo matching the location being uploaded. This would vastly improve their data integrity and stop the placement of stations in Antarctica, uninhabited islands, the middle of the ocean, North Korea etc.

 

[moa999]

I suspect many of the weird location ones are actually duplicates that someone, presumably frustrated with the Plugshare editors, has just moved rather than properly reported

 

[Chuq]

They are just speculating with the location and put the Apollo Bay proposed location where it is only because its the closest visible car park to the yellow star location in the Tesla SC maps (which is at the blue bus stop icon), and there is angled parking on that part of Great O Road

I'm pretty sure this is it, just wanted to give the benefit of the doubt.

I've just looked up a bunch of other future (un-built) superchargers on there, and I'm wondering what the point is. People just check into them by mistake.

ONe that does baffle me however, is this one - Scone. Clearly a supercharger. But added by a Plugshare admin... it's not on the NSW Grant map, it's not on Tesla's map - the only "official" sources are this forum and supercharge.info. The name "Scone, NSW" is identical to the format sc.info uses, but the marker is at slightly different co-ordinates. It's not on OpenStreetMap or Google Maps.

 

[Quickst]

added by a Plugshare admin

I'm speculating it's just Plugshare trying to populate their maps with as much info as possible, including speculative info. The more "plugs" the better for their business model and Accuracy be damned I suspect.

 

[Quickst]

I noticed today a slight in SC charging prices

 

[Chuq]

I noticed today a slight in SC charging prices

Not sure what the were before, but I just checked in my car and they're mostly between 51c and 68c/kWh.

 

[moa999]

Definitely some reductions.
Standard regional rate has dropped from 70c to 68c/kWh
And seemingly even bigger reductions in the cities, with some 30-40c off-peak rates at TOU sites

 

[bcarp]

Definitely some reductions.
Standard regional rate has dropped from 70c to 68c/kWh
And seemingly even bigger reductions in the cities, with some 30-40c off-peak rates at TOU sites

Perhaps electricity prices have dropped. I noticed yesterday that AGL TOU prices in Sydney have dropped during the last few weeks.

 

[Jules22]

Nice. Pretty sure I was paying 70c through my trip in the last couple of weeks

 

[Quickst]

There are some attractive/interesting prices under 60c (not including non peak TOU SC) at:
I dont the pre discount prices but a lot dropped from 70c to 68c
I believe Yass went from 70c to 54c

NSW
Kirrawee 50c
Yass 54c
Central Coast 56c
Yass 54c
Tamworth 58c

Hollydene just scraping in at 60c


ACT
Tugerranong 51c
Majura Park 51c

VIC
Moonee Ponds 51c
Mornington 51c
Box Hill 52c
Dandenong 53c
Brighton 57c
Wangaratta 58c
Bendigo 59c

Euroa scraping in at 60c
Horsham also 60c

QLD
Runaway Bay 46c
Broadbeach 49c
North Lakes 50c
Rochedale 56c
Tweed head 58c
Indoorolilly 59C (peak)

SA
Adelaide 53c
Mt Gambier 58c

WA
Coogee (fremantle) 51c


Nearby SC with different prices
Albury 61c/wodonga 64c
Ballarat 55c / Lucas 66c
Port Macquarie Cassegrain 65c/Thrumster 63c

Cheapest TOU off peak
Camberwell 30c but mostly the TOU offpeak is 31c


The most expensive:
Fortitude Valley 83c (peak)
Broadway 74c (peak)


Interesting that Rocketman does not make a song and dance about price drops but I guess he sacked the entire Tesla ad team

 

[caskings]

Fortitude Valley 83c (peak)

I think this is to encourage drivers to go to Indooroopilly or Roachdale, since this one is constantly full

 

[Vostok]

I think this is to encourage drivers to go to Indooroopilly or Roachdale, since this one is constantly full

And Broadway Sydney is Australia’s busiest supercharger, so why not squeeze some coin out.

 

[Quickst]

full

And queuing in thr non offpeak times

 

[moa999]

Looks like it's back to the future for Tesla at 118-124 Bourke St Alexandria in Sydney (the original showroom/ service/ delivery centre, now showroom and collision repair)

Last week they lodged a DA for 6 V3 superchargers just off the street, in a public area before the gate line
(This is similar to the original plans for the site which were seemingly dropped. Round 1 of NSW Govt funding was for a block away at the homemaker centre on O'Riordan St)

ePlanning - Search application - City of Sydney

eplanning.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au

The image render for the V3 superchargers looks a little dated (T rather than Tesla) and thicker cables.

Also interesting is the stated cost of only $110k.

Hat tip to lumbox on Plugshare who added a pin.

(Posted here rather than a new thread given last time this didn't happen so think wait till DA approved and construction actually starts)

 

[Quickst]

$110k

Often with DA applications, the published cost is minimised. This is to reduce the on-costs loaded on by council based upon development build price.

But if a true price it is about the same retail price as an Ocular 20-40km DCFC