Taycan Takedown

[Eno Deb]

The cars that are changing the world are the Leafs, SR Model 3s, eGolfs etc. collectively these are the cars that “regular” people can afford. Porsche is never changing the world for the majority.

Well, I disagree. There is a strong halo effect, and the mere fact that Porsche is building this car, racing it on the Nürburgring etc. is an admission that a fast car doesn't need "vroom vroom". It all helps to get EVs more accepted. Remember that Tesla also started with cars that were financially out of reach for most people.

 

[Mr X]

Not a big green car fan but damn this looks good.

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I think this looks better

 

[larmor]

Ok i got it, taycan gonna tayke the market for sports EV, but just to a jolt to the system, had to rewatch this:
Roadster unveil...

 

[WilliamG]

Well, I disagree. There is a strong halo effect, and the mere fact that Porsche is building this car, racing it on the Nürburgring etc. is an admission that a fast car doesn't need "vroom vroom". It all helps to get EVs more accepted. Remember that Tesla also started with cars that were financially out of reach for most people.

But let's not also forget that most people did not give a crap about Tesla until the Model 3. I'm a car enthusiast, drove a P85D back when it was new - thought it was fast, boat-like and financially out of reach, like most people did. In the case of Tesla, thankfully enough people bought the S and then X to afford Tesla the ability to create the Model 3 at all. VAG is not in that financial situation. They could go straight for the mainstream, but haven't - in the car of the Taycan. ID will hopefully push this agenda better.

 

[Eno Deb]

But let's not also forget that most people did not give a crap about Tesla until the Model 3.

Disagree again. I think the Model 3 would have sold nowhere near as much as it did without the halo effect from the Model S. That's why they got hundreds of thousands of pre-orders sight unseen.

 

[ilyak]

At least for now Taycan is the only choice if you want to never drive a sub-150k car so people know you are rich, and want to drive electric car so people know you are not only rich but also environment friendly. Despite from suffering shorter range.

Then you'd buy a Rimac. So everyone knows exactly *how* rich you are.

 

[BZM3]

Am I the only one who thinks Tesla should copy these foot garages? The back seat on the Model 3 is horrible.

The back seat in my M3 actually has a roomier and comfier backseat than my uncles S, its weird...

 

[WilliamG]

Disagree again. I think the Model 3 would have sold nowhere near as much as it did without the halo effect from the Model S. That's why they got hundreds of thousands of pre-orders sight unseen.

Absolutely. But that's because otherwise Tesla is an unknown entity! VAG is not unknown!

 

[Daniel in SD]

The back seat in my M3 actually has a roomier and comfier backseat than my uncles S, its weird...

Yes, the backseat on the S is even worse but that doesn't make the 3 comfortable. They should add "foot garages" and then add "garage doors" for people who prefer a flat floor and their knees up in their face.

 

[hydro 481]

 

[ecarfan]

Moderator note: posts about Sentry Mode have been moved to this thread Sentry mode discussion split from Taycan/Model 3 thread

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

"the lower drag Turbo came in at 236-280 miles (381-450km), with the Turbo S at 241-256 miles (388-412km)."

Of course the first news story I read quoted the maximum WLTP number...sigh. Anyway, the Turbo S starts to look pretty inefficient again. It does have some wide front and rear tires though (305 section width rear - and also 20mm wider in the front vs. the Turbo).

So that makes to look the range with EPA pretty poor again.

Sorry if this was posted above, but this was informative:

Everything you wanted to know about Porsche’s new electric car

 

[jordanair45]

Taycan a complete failure. They won't sell many, will go down the route of the i8.

Telsa wins! VW can't compete.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Have to get it fully loaded. Only $258k!

 

[wenkan]

Then you'd buy a Rimac. So everyone knows exactly *how* rich you are.

I don't think Rimac is available on market. They are just prototype cars, like the roadster.

 

[Nocturnal]

DAErik just posted a comparison 0-90mph-0 test to compare against the hypothetical Taycan. He does have upgraded brakes, racing seats, and I think aftermarket wheels.

0-90 6.87 seconds 68% SOC
90-0 4.01s
10.88s total.

Taycan prototype is coming in at 10.17. TBD if production version is the same as this.

 

[WilliamG]

Have to get it fully loaded. Only $258k!
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The list of options is bewildering. It's so off-putting. You add one thing, which means you have to add this whole package while removing some other option. I feel like I need a different Master's Degree to understand any of it.

 

[Nocturnal]

The list of options is bewildering. It's so off-putting. You add one thing, which means you have to add this whole package while removing some other option. I feel like I need a different Master's Degree to understand any of it.

Tesla options: Paint, wheels, color of seats, FSD or not. Done.

 

[JulienW]

Tesla options: Paint, wheels, color of seats, FSD or not. Done.

Yes, but flip the coin and we are getting the old Henry Ford "any color you want as long as it is black" treatment. It would also be nice to personalize instead of having a cookie cutter car.

Just playing a little devil's advocate.

 

[MXWing]

Taycan a complete failure. They won't sell many, will go down the route of the i8.

Telsa wins! VW can't compete.

Someone with practically unlimited money would buy this while they would not buy an i8.

It's worth 200K to some people to not be a plebian driving around in a Model S.