Tesla Model 3 in Australia

[Priit]

I don't yet have FSD and have not received the v10 update yet, although I only collected the car yesterday.

I collected my SR+ on Friday evening. Got update from 9.15 to 9.32 same evening, but have not had any other updates pop up as of yet. I do not have FSD.

Debating if I should buy FSD or not. It’s quite a lot of money and I just can’t see the benefit.

Anyone have any opinions?

I was looking at the FSD option, but it is a rather large amount of money and with Australian limitations, I do not believe it is worth it at its current state. If they had some special deal for half price for limited time, I might consider it, but for this price, it would need to be fully operational and legislation done before I would consider scraping out that much cash.​

 

[1st in Line]

Debating if I should buy FSD or not. It’s quite a lot of money and I just can’t see the benefit.

Anyone have any opinions?

Putting aside any discussion about the exact timing of when it will become available via a.) software enablement b.) regulatory approval, to me it is a no-brainer that FSD will come eventually.

It will not be in 50 years time, nor in 20. Given rate of technological development, I think it will be less than 10, hopefully even less than 5 years from now.

Although I see a multitude of societal challenges arising from FSD, to me the benefits far outweigh these negatives, so it is something I want to support in an altruistic sense - we NEED it - ASAP.

I also think that whoever can flick the switch first on FSD, will have a colossal first mover advantage - more so than Tesla currently enjoys with its EVs.

Iff Tesla is the first to flick the switch and make its cars FSD, as Elon has already indicated, it would not make much sense for Tesla to sell its cars [at current prices]. At that moment, they would become much more valuable to Tesla by using them as "robo-taxis" in their own fleet. So again, iff Tesla is the first, you can be sure that FSD will become more expensive, the closer we get to that point in time and the more confident Tesla grows that it will be able to get there first.

The fact that Tesla has already increase FSD here from originally $7,100 to $8,500 could be the first indication that this process is starting to happen.

Also, keep in mind that from a financial point of view, buying FSD provides a significant boost to Tesla's financial viability. Tesla has not fully recognised payments for FSD, but will only do so as it rolls out more and more FSD functionality. As far as I am aware, there are no numbers out how much impact "Enhanced Summon" will have on FSD revenue recognition, but this and future enhancements could be meaningful and eventually impact on Tesla's gross margin - i.e. overall profitability.

The opposing view is that Elon is a snake oil salesman and FSD is a scam, LIDAR is the ONLY way, etc., etc..

I am betting on Elon [tried to get FSD on the weekend, but can not get through to Customer Service. Hope I will still get it enabled before the next price increase].

He promised me a stunning EV 3 1/2 years ago and kept his promise, so while it is a binary outcome with difficult to determine probability of success, based on Tesla, SpaceX, Boring Co., PayPal, etc. etc. track record, my money - literally - is on Elon.

All imho, DYOR

 

[HockeyMonkey]

Delivery number estimates. I am in the process of working out delivery number estimates for the quarter based on what I have.



For WA, SA, Tas, Act, NT, happy for people to speculate below in the comments, as I have no specific data I have been tracking.



I believe Tas (due to not being able to be find a free ship to transport across the Strait) and NT are zero.



I think I saw about 37 in first WA delivery batch. Any local comments appreciated.

A data point from chatting to the delivery specialist at the Richmond store yesterday when picking up my car, they mentioned delivering 60 cars on Saturday and 40 on Sunday just at this one store.

 

[qdolan]

Are the people with FSD the only ones who have got the V10 update so far?

I have FSD and received v10 (2019.32.11) update notification at 3am this morning. I have updates set to 'Advanced', if that does anything, and I was previously on 2019.32.2.1 which appeared on the 13th.

 

[vindicatorsk]

I have FSD and received v10 (2019.32.11) update notification at 3am this morning. I have updates set to 'Advanced', if that does anything, and I was previously on 2019.32.2.1 which appeared on the 13th.

I also have FSD and updates set to 'Advanced', and installed the V10 update (also 2019.32.11) this morning.

 

[Techno-phile]

Are the people with FSD the only ones who have got the V10 update so far?

I have FSD ( bought when it only cost $5400 in 2017) , qualify for the early access programme (EAP), have update settings on Advanced, and received V10 yesterday morning.
However some features are missing since my hardware has not been upgraded from HW2 to HW3 = FSD yet.

 

[smaldo]

The lucky owner of a White SR+ parked in Moonee Ponds Woolworths carpark, your tyre has been chalked! I'm sure you've got a nice pic of the friendly inspector

If you unlock the car, I'll move it for you until I take delivery of mine

 

[aroth]

Debating if I should buy FSD or not. It’s quite a lot of money and I just can’t see the benefit.

Anyone have any opinions?

Depends on why you're buying the car and how you'll be driving it.

It seems like quite a few people are really keen on the automation features. I've never really understood this, though having had a chance to actually drive the car and play with these features I kind of get it now. Still personally wouldn't buy a vehicle that can drive like the P3+/- just to let it drive itself around, but the tech is definitely cool. Even without FSD.

Are you in that group? From your question it sounds like probably not.

Then it's probably a question of what your daily commute is like. Maybe you're like me and don't have one. Or maybe you're sitting in rush hour traffic every day for an hour to try and cover 30km from home to work. If you've got a tedious commute in heavy traffic (along major motorways/well marked roads), then FSD could be a real game-changer. Though of course, even the free/basic autopilot is good in that scenario too; you just have to handle more of the navigation yourself.

Or maybe you buy into the vision of fleets of EV's cleanly and sustainably and autonomously ferrying people around, and believe that it's plausible in the near future, and want to have a car that can participate in that (imo the second point is "unlikely" and the third is "meh, I'm happy to have removed my own carbon footprint, don't really need to have random people riding around in my car unsupervised even if my car can technically do it"). In which case FSD is needed if not now, then soon.

Personally I don't regret not spending $8500 (plus LCT) on FSD. The only thing it does today that I might consider using is autopark, and that's only because I'm still getting used to the difference in turning radius between the Model 3 and my previous car (quite a bit wider in the 3, despite the older car actually being bigger/longer). Who knows when the other features will arrive, or how long it will be between then and when they're actually enabled in Australia? Seems like a lot of cash to drop on something that's not hugely useful in the short term, particularly when the risk of not buying it is minimal. You can still add it later, just maybe at a small premium price-wise and possibly with a trip to the service-station required to upgrade to HW3 (my non-FSD car has HW2.5 according to the video codecs it uses).

Edit: I guess FSD also gets you early access to software updates (which is good or bad, depending upon how you feel about beta-testing the latest features). No FSD, no v10 update here yet.

 

[TH232]

Are the people with FSD the only ones who have got the V10 update so far?

Car just updated to V10 30 mins ago. I have FSD. It was hard to get teenage daughter out of car before, now it is school holidays with Caroke it is impossible!

 

[TH232]

I am trying to keep a register of WA deliveries.
Yes, TH232 saw about 37 delivered to Autonexus on 4th and 12th September; there have probably been more since, but no evidence.
We think that 21 were loaded on Oregon Highway in Port Kembla eta Freo tomorrow.

I know of 29 delivered to customers so far, plus two who should have received theirs last week, but haven't shared their joy.
Another 10 scheduled for delivery this week.
Another 21 scheduled for delivery for the rest of the month.
Another 15 who ordered but no delivery date yet.
Another 73 who reserved, but no further details since then.

Techno-phile, I think your numbers might be on the low side. I know at least one old guy near to me who has ordered with delivery scheduled for next month (Oct). He has no interest in forums, social media, groups of any sort etc, just happy to let the car arrive. He says his wife is sooooooo excited she can hardly contain herself. You can see him in the video I posted of the delivery...the guy with the crooked cane. He actually sits on the park bench nearby every afternoon watching our Tesla coming and going doing the taxi runs. Anyway, there must be bunches of people like him that are impossible to count.

 

[spidey]

Debating if I should buy FSD or not. It’s quite a lot of money and I just can’t see the benefit.

Anyone have any opinions?

If uve got cash to burn go for it. (But as per discussion in the fsd thread purchase after delivery. ). Personally for those limited features I don’t see the point yet. However I do see purchasing it as a financial hedge in a way as obviously the fsd feature set is going to improve greatly in next few years and I bet ya the price goes up accordingly.

One interesting consideration I have in the back of my mind is resale value. If in 5 years time Tesla FSD is the ants pants, and it costs $15k, that FSD license bought now may be the only part of your car to appreciate in value over time. (Have you watched the Tesla autonomy day presentation on YouTube? If not... do)

Personally I’m not doing it yet, but the temptation is ever present.

 

[Vostok]

The funny thing is conservative voting is correlated to xenophobia & nationalism (plenty of research on this) - supporting electric cars means not having to import energy & supporting the nation’s economy. But denial of science trumps when you mentally compartmentalise

If I ever met a One Nation supporter I’d like to make their head explode by pointing out that the money they spend on petrol directly funds the repressive middle-eastern regimes they despise, and probably indirectly funds some Islamic terrorist groups. So therefore they should stop buying petrol (as well as halal chicken).

 

[korda]

Not sure about everyone else but I'm pretty excited about today being over.... we can then get on with October deliveries!

And since the pressure is off, they'll have time to properly check the only 2 fluids in the car. They had one job.

I am trying to keep a register of WA deliveries.

Much appreciated, that's a lot of cars heading this way. I still haven't seen one on the road yet, maybe my first will be mine in 4 weeks?

 

[Techno-phile]

And since the pressure is off, they'll have time to properly check the only 2 fluids in the car. They had one job.



Much appreciated, that's a lot of cars heading this way. I still haven't seen one on the road yet, maybe my first will be mine in 4 weeks?

There are at least 5 M3s destined for Melville WA (plus all the unknowns as TH232 points out), which must be enough for a meeting at Garden City or even Left Bank when we all receive them!

 

[DeemandingM3]

Much appreciated, that's a lot of cars heading this way. I still haven't seen one on the road yet, maybe my first will be mine in 4 weeks?

You could've seen mine, but I've been sick all long weekend and it's barely left the garage

 

[nigwil]

sit in, press brake
Seat,mirrors,wheel moves to my personal position

With V10 update I think it sets the air vents to your personal profile setting now?

 

[Kangojack]

Just remotely installed the V10 update while away for a few days.
Crazy cool.

 

[Kiwiadventure]

Phantom stopping is very dangerous and how would the police look at. It's years away before FSD can be fully trusted.

 

[korda]

There are at least 5 M3s destined for Melville WA (plus all the unknowns as TH232 points out), which must be enough for a meeting at Garden City or even Left Bank when we all receive them!

I'm just nearby! Apparently Chargefox have 4 stalls at the new Woolies in Mt Pleasant, that beats the 2 Chargepoints at Garden City right?
If I do see one of your cars charging at Garden City on my weekly shop, I'll leave a wave on your side repeater camera

 

[AndrewSa]

Does V10 allow you to remotely crack the windows for a hot day?