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Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live
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Cyclone
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And this is exactly what happened with me. I was explicit in asking about stuff I may find at delivery with my Owner Advisor and Delivery Specialist and was assured (via email, so in writing), that any issues would be noted and taken care of at my service center at home. That really put my mind at ease. Some of the items were just supply stuff (the rep said he was getting me a frunk cargo net, but Tysons was all out - so Charlotte gave it to me). There were some issues that need repair, but again, minor and promised to be fixed at my local center and did not affect the ability to drive the car home. For instance, we noticed my mirrors would not fold in. They are not the newer kind that do so automatically, but are supposed to still fold in when you manually push it. Turns out there is some damage to the mirrors and the Charlotte store said they will repair or replace the mirrors. Not a problem at all as the mirror works, I can adjust it using the wheel on the driver door armrest, I just can't fold in the mirror.
kuttakamina
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.. and thats where the issue is. Their CPO site isn't that great! Phone camera pictures don't do justice to a 100K purchase.
I don't want to spend 2 days of my life travelling to a city, when I am not sure that I may not even like the car. And I hope they will refund the $1k minimum at the very least.
This has basically kept my options limited to DC .. where there are no "deals" at this moment atleast.
Are the pictures really even of the exact car being advertised? The pictures all look so similar to me that I think they are stock images.
Alan
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@Cyclone,
If you wouldn't mind, would you please post the list of issues that turned up when you reviewed Nick Howe's checklist against your CPO?
Thanks,
Alan
Alan
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@Cyclone,
If you wouldn't mind, would you please post the list of issues that turned up when you reviewed Nick Howe's checklist against your CPO?
Thanks,
Alan
kuttakamina
Member
They are stock images!
But apparently if you are interested, and give them a call, they will email you real pictures, depending on the mood and availability of the picture taker that is!
So in Toronto there's a P85 for about $76k CAD, seems really low relative to where other CPO cars are priced... am I missing something? Anyone know if we can check the accident history of these cars systematically?
P85 in question
85 kWh Performance Model S P08819 | Tesla Motors Canada
Similar mileage P85, with 21", alcantra, lights for $20k more?
85 kWh Performance Model S P15831 | Tesla Motors Canada
P85 in question
85 kWh Performance Model S P08819 | Tesla Motors Canada
Similar mileage P85, with 21", alcantra, lights for $20k more?
85 kWh Performance Model S P15831 | Tesla Motors Canada
ahurst
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Drucifer
Active Member
Maybe I am really trusting, but my car is being delivered tomorrow and I have not requested pictures. I'll "see the bride for the first time when she approaches me coming down the aisle". I have enough faith that Tesla has either prepared the CPO car well, or will make it right later to just proceed off of CGI images on a website.
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
I do NOT hope this happens, but if there is an issue and you refuse delivery until its fixed, would they truck yours back to Raleigh or would it go to Charlotte? Btw, my Uncle was driving back to Charlotte yesterday and called me when he saw a Green Tesla on a truck along the way! Maybe he drove past your baby?
Drucifer
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It might have been. They were getting my car back from the paint & body shop. Bumper cover was being repaired and repainted from stone chips.
Cyclone
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Alan, I won't go into everything, but basically the following from Nick's list... sunroof is smearing some black goo on inside and outside when opening/closing, driver tail light has bugs in it, pax tail light is fogged up/moisture in it, rear bumper misaligned on pax side and similar as Drucifer...
The latter is why they want 5 days for my car rather than 1-2.
$1500 - Dual chargers.
~$1000 (?) - Premium Interior Lighting.
$4500 - 19" -> Grey Turbine.
$2800 -> Mileage difference.
So there's $9800 US. So $11,955 CAD, so let's call that $12,000 CAD. The listed price difference is $20.2k CAD so there's an $8.2k CAD difference.
Also they are 10,000 VINs apart so clearly there's an age discount of a few months (perhaps across "VIN year" as well). If it's 6-7 months and the discounting is US$1000/mo. then the math lines up just about right.
All that said, 8819 looks like a diamond in the rough price-wise.
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Tesla CPO Stats: DOM vs Price
I have to say, as a long-time TSLA / Model S owner (in that order) now pondering another EV purchase, this thread is fascinating and it is a rich source of information as well as hard data -- the latter thanks to @HankLloydRight and Tesla CPO program which has captivated us again. I've been looking at the data he has collected through his web site and have been analyzing it in various ways.
We tend to focus on extremes, and here a lot of attention is understandably devoted to the cheaper end and how fast those cars sell. As it turns out, despite anecdotal evidence (i.e. befitting human nature, people tend to post about the tails of the distribution vs the bulk), the correlation between CPO sale price and days-on-market (DOM) is very poor. Although weakly positive, price alone is a poor predictor of how long a car will stick around. Certainly, it is true that the absolute cheapest cars (at the tail of the price distribution) are going to sell very quickly, but soon thereafter (~> ~US$55k), the variation in DOM drastically rises. Surprisingly, at the most expensive range, the distribution then narrows to smaller average DOM (although qualified by larger error there due to smaller sales). Here is the up-to-date correlation plot between sale price and DOM. It includes US-market sales only (133 sales since 4/27/15) since there is not yet enough data for Canada. There are interesting results from the unsold cars too, and other info from the sold-dataset, which I will try to post as soon as time allows going forward.
Raw data source: Tesla CPO Consolidator consolidated from Pre-Owned ModelS | Tesla Motors
I have to say, as a long-time TSLA / Model S owner (in that order) now pondering another EV purchase, this thread is fascinating and it is a rich source of information as well as hard data -- the latter thanks to @HankLloydRight and Tesla CPO program which has captivated us again. I've been looking at the data he has collected through his web site and have been analyzing it in various ways.
We tend to focus on extremes, and here a lot of attention is understandably devoted to the cheaper end and how fast those cars sell. As it turns out, despite anecdotal evidence (i.e. befitting human nature, people tend to post about the tails of the distribution vs the bulk), the correlation between CPO sale price and days-on-market (DOM) is very poor. Although weakly positive, price alone is a poor predictor of how long a car will stick around. Certainly, it is true that the absolute cheapest cars (at the tail of the price distribution) are going to sell very quickly, but soon thereafter (~> ~US$55k), the variation in DOM drastically rises. Surprisingly, at the most expensive range, the distribution then narrows to smaller average DOM (although qualified by larger error there due to smaller sales). Here is the up-to-date correlation plot between sale price and DOM. It includes US-market sales only (133 sales since 4/27/15) since there is not yet enough data for Canada. There are interesting results from the unsold cars too, and other info from the sold-dataset, which I will try to post as soon as time allows going forward.
Raw data source: Tesla CPO Consolidator consolidated from Pre-Owned ModelS | Tesla Motors
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SmartElectric
Active Member
There were 4 other P85 sold in the past few weeks for similar prices $74K-$76K according to :
Tesla CPO Consolidator
Some were a bit nicer with more options, so I don't see the white P85 as any more compelling than the others.
Still waiting to see something nice in the low $70K before I get serious about CPO, just can't see buying something for only $10K less than the 70D at $85K equipped the way I like.
Drucifer
Active Member
I'd like to see about 9+ more weeks of data. I am not dissuaded from the idea that vehicles below $60k sell really quickly.
Cyclone
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Drucifer
Active Member
Especially given your P85 and my S85 could be measured in minutes on market!
Mine was out there for less than approx. 215 minutes. I know because my "Thank You Your order is complete" email is timestamped 10:35 pm EDST and this thread was started at 7:17 pm EDST, so guessing that the site was launched at 7:00 sharp and it took someone 17 minutes to talk about it here
Cyclone
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Mine was out there for less than approx. 215 minutes. I know because my "Thank You Your order is complete" email is timestamped 10:35 pm EDST and this thread was started at 7:17 pm EDST, so guessing that the site was launched at 7:00 sharp and it took someone 17 minutes to talk about it here
You just beat me to it! My neighbor texted me at 10:17 p about the site going up and at 10:37 p I purchased. Two minutes apart!!
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