So doesn't this explicitly prove the OP's point? LOL, some posters on this forum are so funny. "It's a FEATURE OF THE CAR LIKE THE COLOR AND SEATS AND SUNROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (unless Tesla resells it in which case they take it off just like they change its color and remove the sunroof and change the seats to cloth)" - Forum Posters
I honestly think FSD will eventually switch to a price per mile model.
Sure. Not coming at you for your comment. Just making the point that all of these people screaming that it's a feature of the car are obviously confused/misunderstanding, and Tesla could very easily make FSD an account level feature instead of a VIN level feature. If they can remove it when it comes back to them, it's only an artificial restriction that it's currently VIN level only.
Pretty accurate: Typical examples:
In theory if original buyer bought FSD, decides to sell car, then eventually buys exact car from dealer after Tesla auction, they'd have to pay for FSD twice on the same car.
The financial result to people is the same.
So, the situation is that a paid-for FSD (currently $15K) will be removed if Tesla finds out it changed owners? That is still messed up.
No, read the whole comment carefully. It only gets removed if the car goes through Tesla's hands.
It stays with the original car, unless it gets into Tesla's hands. After it is in Tesla's hands, sometimes Tesla may remove the FSD in order to sell the car for cheaper (like at an auction for example). When it is in Tesla's hands they have every right to change it (just like you can in a used car, for example if the car came with some nice rims, you can part it out and swap in cheaper ones). If it never passed through Tesla's hands, it'll stick to the car.
My feeling is that, despite naysayers, as FSD gets toward being fully functional (not complete, it will always be evolving), FSD will add some $$ to the resale value (given that it currently costs $14k new). However, the window will be tight since sometime in the next 12-18 months I suspect we will see HW4.
No this is not, nor has it ever been the case. Just like hardware options, the software options stay with the car forever. If Tesla happen at some point to take OWNERSHIP of the car (e.g. via a trade in), then sure they may change the options during that period of ownership, but that's true of hardware too.
I hope so. Prices need to drop significantly for mass adoption. I bought mine at 8k and my mother could have gotten it for 12k but it was still half baked and required the stupid score.
Not sure the distinction you're trying to make...? When Tesla gets ownership, they remove FSD so they can sell it again. By any measure, that's scummy. Not sure how anyone could disagree?
Not sure why Tesla should not be able to do that - once they own the car they can do whatever they want with it. Put on different wheels, remove or add FSD, or anything else. As long as when they are selling it they clearly advertise what's included.
Why is that scummy? When they get ownership, they can do whatever they want to THEIR CAR, just like you as an owner can to your own car. They can repaint the car, swap all the wheels, suspension, seats, etc (some owners do that themselves). FSD is just one other component like that.
