Interesting question but I don’t buy it. I bet most people with TACC in any car don’t use it or even know it is there if they have it. I wonder how you buy a tesla and don’t have EAP? Everyone asks within a minute if this is the car that drives itself - then are shocked it doesn’t have an engine (pun intended).
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hurjio
Member
Given free TACC, I'd never buy AP and I think Elon knows that.
What I don't know is whether without TACC bought+enabled if early detection warning works. I have AP and with TACC off, that works and has saved my bacon a couple times.
What I don't know is whether without TACC bought+enabled if early detection warning works. I have AP and with TACC off, that works and has saved my bacon a couple times.
What happens if the car in front of you brakes with the "dumb" cruise control on? Is there emergency braking that is activated?
These are the Standard Safety Features comes with the car even with no EAP.
· Automatic Emergency Braking
Designed to detect objects that the car may impact and applies the brakes accordingly
· Side Collision Warning
Warns the driver of potential collisions with obstacles alongside the car
· Front Collision Warning
Helps warn of impending collisions with slower moving or stationary cars
I assume , the car will slam the break to certain extent and then hit the car on the front at lower speed is my guess. Don't think the basic cruise will be of any use except for highway driving with not much traffic on the other hand the TACC shines in traffic as well as in the highways.
· Automatic Emergency Braking
Designed to detect objects that the car may impact and applies the brakes accordingly
· Side Collision Warning
Warns the driver of potential collisions with obstacles alongside the car
· Front Collision Warning
Helps warn of impending collisions with slower moving or stationary cars
I assume , the car will slam the break to certain extent and then hit the car on the front at lower speed is my guess. Don't think the basic cruise will be of any use except for highway driving with not much traffic on the other hand the TACC shines in traffic as well as in the highways.
Glamisduner
Active Member
Probably, but you will also probably still hit that car, just at a reduced speed. Emergency braking is not something you want to be testing on cars in front of you. It's just as it says "Emergency Braking" which for tesla means that you need to stop quickly in an emergency and a crash is immenent.
RedModel3
Member
My last new car was a 1992 Mazda Protege. I was broke, so it was the base model with absolutely no bells and whistles. For Christmas, my parents bought me cruise control, which at the time was almost $1000. So, no, I don't think that Tesla should give away TACC for free. Maybe someone wants to try coming up with an aftermarket version. Maybe in the future TACC will be unbundled from EAP. Who knows? I've certainly seen plenty of changes in the cost structure of the Model S from the time it was first sold, so anything is possible.
voip-ninja
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Msjulie
Active Member
Me. I am a stockholder and this is our 3rd Tesla but with all the bad press, autopilot nags so much now that *for me* I'd just prefer driving myself (well I admit mostly that's true anyway)
TACC is something I can find value in today however..
seattlite2004
Active Member
If/When Tesla offers the 35K model....my goal is to get the lowest priced Tesla ever made....additional costs for EAP nor FSD doesn't support that goal.
RFernatt
Solar/EV Owner/Enthusiast
If vehicle features can be turned off/on with an OTA update, Tesla should maximize revenue while it can, especially at this critical juncture. Down the road, if they need to make it standard to keep parity with competing vehicles, presuming there are competitive (in a total package sense of the word) vehicles, then it can be easily done at that time. A bird in the hand and all that...
SeaDoc
2018 P3 on FSD Beta & 2022 X Plaid FSD
Those that want free options need to walk in to a Porsche dealership and look at the myriad of options available to purchase one of their cars. Tesla is doing it right - you want a fully equipped vehicle - you pay for it, if you want a slimmed down version - you got that too... This free for nothing mentality is utter BS... if you don't like the way Tesla does its business, please go elsewhere... I'm still rattled by those who are PO'd they don't get 'track mode' because they didn't opt for the performance upgrade of 5K... It just never ends.
Glamisduner
Active Member
That's different because tesla was not clear on what would come with the 11k upgrade from AWD to performance. Since it's mostly a software update it's not unreasonable to assume you would get track mode.
I wouldn't agree with such a broad generalization.... this assumes they barely were able to afford the $35K car which will be true sometimes but not always. Someone's situation might change after they buy the car ... local driving changes to long distance driving and then they really want to add EAP. As long as Elon's not losing moving on the $35K config, even a small number of upgrades is good.
This is true today when Elon's is desperate for cash, but not necessarily in the long run. Adobe and Microsoft have almost entirely moved away from the one time software purchase to the on-going software subscription and its been huge for them. Tesla has a great opportunity to gain future revenues for feature "rental", supercharger plans, or entertainment packages (as long as they don't break their promises to people previously promised lifetime unlimited services.)
hurjio
Member
I'm interested to know how pricing will be affected in the future (2-3 years). Usually technological features decrease in price as time goes on. Honda Sensing will be standard in all cars 2022, which includes TACC. It's already standard on a few model trims, and I can see it being standard on most models by 2020. I know luxury car makers like to nickel and dime you on options, but I see TACC as one of those things eventually becoming standard in the near future, just like AEB.
Yes.
My vote was no, at least until they enable optional dumb cruise. Chevy added an option to the Volt for dumb cruise when ACC isn't working.
Automatic Emergency Braking is coming to all cars, so some manufacturers are going the route of including ACC in all but the base models.
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