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[UK] 2023.44
- Thread starter AnthonyLR
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Cardo
Active Member
You might want to have a recap on roadsigns. Roundabouts and mini roundabouts are quite well defined.
Mini roundabout:
”Regular” roundabout:
Cardo
Active Member
So shortly after posting the above about my recurring mirror moving issue I received the 2023.44.30.8 update and since then the mirror has been behaving itself. We’ll see how long it lasts, this time…
Has anyone else been experiencing this issue?
There is the above and also the practical approach to driving which is to assume everyone is an idiot.
If someone is on my right at a mini roundabout and they were signalling left (E.g. to go down the road I am on), I still wouldn’t pull out until they actually had started to leave the roundabout.
If you assume everyone is an idiot, you tend to have a lot less near misses and collisions.
Cardo
Active Member
Indeed. Always drive defensively. A skill I learned by learning to ride a motorcycle first. It’s saved me multiple times.
Got .8 on yesterday. It's nagging far more to look at road and keep my hands on wheel. Never had an issue before now. Quite annoying, it's way too sensitive.
Yes I also do this, it's still easy to do when you have indicator stalks.
Drew57
Active ember
Same here & "hope for the best, plan for the worst" has always served me well (including buying or owning a Tesla)
Doudeau
Member
There’s a mini roundabout I normally use many times every day which is at the end of a High Street. It’s not unusual for somebody to use the roundabout to go back into the High Street from where they had just come.
If a car just turns right then it’s really very helpful that they indicate they’re leaving the roundabout and equally annoying if they don’t bother. It can make the difference to whether you get the chance to drive onto the roundabout yourself. I don’t suppose it’s unique in the UK either.
If a car just turns right then it’s really very helpful that they indicate they’re leaving the roundabout and equally annoying if they don’t bother. It can make the difference to whether you get the chance to drive onto the roundabout yourself. I don’t suppose it’s unique in the UK either.
This was one of the main principles I drummed into my two sons when I taught them to drive.
They quickly accepted this as we'd see ample support for the theory on every drive.
Thank you. Confirmation of what I’ve read elsewhere that the cabin camera monitoring is far more frequent in that bugfix version. I think I’ll keep declining this update for now.
Then why are we complaining about AP if qualified normal drivers are considered as just idiots.
Mini roundabouts are usually things you can indicate on approach and everyone else can see your intentions from that. If there’s time I’ll indicate when coming off them too, but given how small they are you’re quite often pointed at the exit (or entering it) by the time you’ve passed the penultimate exit.
It goes for all types, but indicating to leave too early might lead someone at the penultimate exit to assume you’re coming off and enter in front of you or a pedestrian at your exit to start crossing. It’s all just common sense and determined by the situation.
If everyone is driving defensively, then not indicating when to do so could give a confusing message due to the layout is the better option, as it makes people wait to see what you do before moving. But if everyone on the road is an idiot (and they are, including me), they probably aren’t driving defensively.
But all of that makes it too complicated for Elon so we get fiddly buttons on the wheel and an Autopilot that can’t account for its own idiocy.
It goes for all types, but indicating to leave too early might lead someone at the penultimate exit to assume you’re coming off and enter in front of you or a pedestrian at your exit to start crossing. It’s all just common sense and determined by the situation.
If everyone is driving defensively, then not indicating when to do so could give a confusing message due to the layout is the better option, as it makes people wait to see what you do before moving. But if everyone on the road is an idiot (and they are, including me), they probably aren’t driving defensively.
But all of that makes it too complicated for Elon so we get fiddly buttons on the wheel and an Autopilot that can’t account for its own idiocy.
Of course that includes me and you and all the other vociferous people who rubbishes AP, I guess
WannabeOwner
Well-Known Member
That doesn't have a distinction between indicating to turn right, and doing a U-turn ...
Um, how do you think indicating on a regular roundabout would work in the same two situations?
