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UK FSD Discussion
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Pink Duck
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State police may do a certain kind of inspection based on observable concerns, typically too late to prevent accidents.
No wonder their insurance premiums are so high.
No wonder their insurance premiums are so high.
Zilla91
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Probably also linked to the fact that their driving test is just a 10 min drive between two cones on an empty car park for fifteen year old kids...
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Pink Duck
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I suspect all this means is the underlying code of FSD is going to shift to the newer version but functionally we get the same thing. If phantom braking etc all reduce then great.
Has anyone else wondered if the renaming to “FSD (supervised)” is actually a product rename to reflect its foreseeable end state rather than just a substitution for “beta”? The road to unsupervised is so long, just look at Waymo etc, so even if the car was capable it won’t happen for years, so Tesla are in effect calling it.
Has anyone else wondered if the renaming to “FSD (supervised)” is actually a product rename to reflect its foreseeable end state rather than just a substitution for “beta”? The road to unsupervised is so long, just look at Waymo etc, so even if the car was capable it won’t happen for years, so Tesla are in effect calling it.
You may not be aware but Tesla were criticised in the USA (and elsewhere) for calling it Full Self Driving due to it implying it is autonomous. I think it's simply a naming recognition that supervision is currently expected and required. I don't believe that means that is their end goal for it.
Zilla91
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This guy is the only person worth watching as this is proper. None of that basic test routes when the roads are empty rubbish.
It's impressive, but it will never be self driving.
It's impressive, but it will never be self driving.
So two driverless cars are approaching each other down a narrow (one lane) road. If they had drivers, one would inevitably back up until they could move over far enough to let the other car pass.
However, what would happen if they were driverless (no steering wheel, passengers in the back)?
Would they both back up? Would they hold their ground until the battery died! Is the software in one car - more aggressive than the other!!!
However, what would happen if they were driverless (no steering wheel, passengers in the back)?
Would they both back up? Would they hold their ground until the battery died! Is the software in one car - more aggressive than the other!!!
Networking solved a similar problem years ago, from memory it was called something like CSMA/CD, but you’re right it’s something that’s needed
Now substitute one of those cars for some teenage kids on the way home from school and want to have fun. Throwing their friends into the road to see how close they can get the car before it emergency stops, or placing a traffic cone in the road or a host of other things to disrupt the self drive, and we just know they will.
Its a looooong way off - could you imaging being in a car doing 17-20mph, you'd be getting undercut left right and centre
The cars would communicate....either by Bluetooth or headlight flashing...they would start making enquires about each other...how many passengers in each car...any hospital visits...any pregnant women on board...social economic status....and using AI they would evaluate who has right of way. In fact exactly as we would do it
Then there is the driverless car dilemma, does the car decide who should die and who should live?
EG: Driverless car comes around a corner at speed and is confronted either with colliding with a group of children crossing the road or swerving to avoid them and killing "only" the one passenger and one child in the autonomous vehicle.
Would you have made the decision to plough into the group knowing you'd save yourself and your child but risking killing several children if driving a manual version? Harsh example but brings home the decision making these vehicles will have to make in future.
EG: Driverless car comes around a corner at speed and is confronted either with colliding with a group of children crossing the road or swerving to avoid them and killing "only" the one passenger and one child in the autonomous vehicle.
Would you have made the decision to plough into the group knowing you'd save yourself and your child but risking killing several children if driving a manual version? Harsh example but brings home the decision making these vehicles will have to make in future.
