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[uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance
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Drew57
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Yes I agree but how many other manufacturers offer the ability to use park assist when navigating the surface of Mars?
Probably the same reason the AP visualisations jump around and flip between different types of vehicle.
There’s a trade off between showing you raw info on what the system is detecting and showing you a cleaned up view of what it thinks it might be detecting. The latter can be neater and more stable but it’s riskier because the system is making an extra level of interpretation. Eg, if it assumes that what it now thinks is a semi can’t possibly be one because a minute ago it thought it was a car it opens the door to a misbehaviour if it turns out the first interpretation was the incorrect one.
As for why the detection of a kerb is not perfect yet I’d imagine that picking it out from camera data amongst shadows, debris and imperfections in the curb and then projecting that in to 3D space is more complex than it seems.
Zilla91
Active Member
Been a while since I last heard anything about this. Have any of the subsequent updates improved this or is it still garbage?
Still useless... Everyone was saying "this is just first attempt, will improve over time". Where is the improvement? I think this is very low priority for them. But elon said few days ago that it will be better than USS.
It has improved a bit, things that I’ve noticed that have changed from the first release;
Degraded message / function - before if for whatever reason it didn’t want to load, it just didn’t, I’ve not had a full failed to load since this (and not noticed what was degraded when the message flashes up).
Slightly quicker to load / preloads more often. Possibly subjective though, but does seem quicker.
Accuracy better - BUT - if there is a curb you are reversing or driving towards, it uses that as the point to measure to, great if parking near a curb on the side of the road, less useful when backing into somewhere where you would overhang the curb.
Thanks for the update. I have yet to update to get the vision based parking assistance but will shortly I’d like to think it will improve over time. I hope.
Chimpy McChimp
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In my experience haven't seen much improvement. Ive got to the point where I ignore it as it doesn't help. Just earlier today I was parking very slowly and I noticed the distance measurements were jumping all over the place.
I really hope it improves
It can only get so good with the cameras being where they are.
The front cameras have a 3 foot blind spot ahead that they can't see, so are reliant on the "occupancy network" to remember what it saw as you drive towards an obstacle. Probably works ok with things that are easily discerned, like walls, but less so with things it couldn't properly discern in the first place.
The rear camera (singular) has a limited field of view, so won't be able to pick things up at the extremeties of the car, instead relying on the occupancy network to fill in the blanks. There is also barely any illumination at the back, even with the reversing lights on, so is likely to be compromised by that, as well as by dirt and other crud that you normally get on the back of the car from driving it.
To be fair - the fact there is a system that uses the cameras is an impressive technical feat, but it is in no way comparable to ultrasonics which Just Work™. Tesla customers have to put up with this crap while Tesla themselves reap the benefits of saving ~$110 per car.
The front cameras have a 3 foot blind spot ahead that they can't see, so are reliant on the "occupancy network" to remember what it saw as you drive towards an obstacle. Probably works ok with things that are easily discerned, like walls, but less so with things it couldn't properly discern in the first place.
The rear camera (singular) has a limited field of view, so won't be able to pick things up at the extremeties of the car, instead relying on the occupancy network to fill in the blanks. There is also barely any illumination at the back, even with the reversing lights on, so is likely to be compromised by that, as well as by dirt and other crud that you normally get on the back of the car from driving it.
To be fair - the fact there is a system that uses the cameras is an impressive technical feat, but it is in no way comparable to ultrasonics which Just Work™. Tesla customers have to put up with this crap while Tesla themselves reap the benefits of saving ~$110 per car.
a car with no USS and the visibility of a turd is a hard task in the UK. That's why I'm not selling my Tesla for a new one. If they can't replace it with a system that works adequately, then I'm off to another brand unfortunately.
no problem for me in USA, maybe parking spots are not as tight as in UK and Europe?
Regular PSA to remind you that USS work ‘adequately’ because you’re accustomed to working around their limitations and no longer perceive them as a such. The vision system has different limitations and the areas where it’s not as good as USS stand out to you.
I think it has improved a bit since first launch. It has still got a way to go before it is overall better than the mature system it replaced. I’m fairly good at parking so the only time I really need the assistance is when things are particularly difficult which generally when the current system is already saying ‘I’m scared, you do it’.
I think it has improved a bit since first launch. It has still got a way to go before it is overall better than the mature system it replaced. I’m fairly good at parking so the only time I really need the assistance is when things are particularly difficult which generally when the current system is already saying ‘I’m scared, you do it’.
Parking sensors wouldn’t be a make or break on any brand for me…and at least with Tesla you get a chance that they will get it right one day….mind you, I’m still waiting for a 360’ view
Jason71
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We are a small island and space is generally tight here. Many of our carparks were built when the average car was about 1.5m wide ( excluding mirrors). a lot of cars are about 30+cm wider than that now so yes our carparks can be very tight in the UK for modern cars and SUV's.
Even in newer carparks more spaces = more money so there is a ££ incentive to keep the spaces small.
It is not completely trash that it is wrong every time, sometimes it does correct. But by the time I am close enough to something that I could benefit from park assist it has already freaked out. There is no practical use the way it is.
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