Yeah OK so is it more likely that Volkswagen and Vauxhall are selling cars that don't comply with UK law or that you and the article are mistaken / outdated.This says it’s for the EU as well
EU lists 11 car safety systems to become mandatory from 2021
Autonomous braking and automatic speed limit assistance among compulsory features on all new vehicleswww.theweek.co.uk
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[uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance
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Zilla91
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There is no law in the UK for this, those are old articles.my rental is the base "Design" model, only the GS model and above get sensors etc ... I would wager the above new law would not apply to "new cars" but actually to "newly homologated" cars.
The fact you can configure vehicles without rear cameras and parking sensors online (and that we both have them!) tells you everything you need to know.
Don't believe me? The Dacia Duster Essential has neither. You can order one today like that.
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Chimpy McChimp
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PCP purchase direct from Tesla finance in July. Nothing said about no USS at any point. Due to my circumstances I needed the car so was not in a position to reject.
Do t get me wrong. I absolutely love driving it and think it's an amazing machine. But in my opinion, the way Tesla have handled this has left a sour taste in my mouth.
Do t get me wrong. I absolutely love driving it and think it's an amazing machine. But in my opinion, the way Tesla have handled this has left a sour taste in my mouth.
I have a 2023 model Y and the front wing camera's are the old type like the left picture not the blue car, they are very poor at rendering colour a bright red car looks like a very dull washed out orange. They dont seem to get obscured though even when driven on the dirty uk roads as per the last few days, the rear camera however is a deifferent story and gets totally blinded by road grime very quickly. I wonder why we cant have a view of the B pillar cameras on the screen as this may be helpfull when parrallel parking for the front wheels.nobody knows as the only pic ever seen is that blue one....
The fender cameras do not detect red color correctly - their gamut is shifted/limited. That has been the case since introduction. It is another cost reduction because for their AP functionality they don’t even need to be in color. Blind spot/parking utilization was a later addon, which, arguably, does not benefit a lot from color either.
Whether such “corner cutting” is the expected approach for such expensive vehicles is a totally different topic.
It’s got nothing to do with cost or ‘cornet cutting’, the rest of your post is correct. The cameras colours are calibrated for machine vision not human vision. You could make it show normal colour if you want but that would make it sub optimal for its primary our pose.
The whole putting the camera feed on when indicating thing is something that someone posted on Twitter and musk implemented it long after the car was designed and was never intended to to be a feature.
I would love to have faith in TV, but i live in a terraced house with bumper to bumper parking (in a student area with lots of bad parkers), The rear camera would be ok, but how can the car know the front distance when the camera is placed in the windshield. if camera were on the bonnet/grill then they could offer 360 view which would also work.
If i had off street parking there is NO issue, but when you park in the street 365 days a year, its just not making life easier
They will never move backwards
Why would you retrofit when it wont be integrated with the tech, would seem pretty pointless, after all what are you paying for "The Tech"
Chimpy McChimp
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I noticed last night driving down my unlit driveway how much I used to rely on sensors and a camera that was under the badge of my old car (it opened when car was in reverse) never used to have an issue reversing out the drive as the camera was almost always clear and the sensors have that extra level of confidence in the dark. Last night I had to clear the camera and still go very very slow (the brake lights being on helped with visibility)
Mrs. McChimp and I even discussed getting driveway lights installed which would involve digging up the drive the install electrics.
Mrs. McChimp and I even discussed getting driveway lights installed which would involve digging up the drive the install electrics.
MrBadger
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We use rear fog light in that situation. Street lights don’t come on until 5am so it’s pitch black otherwise although at present we also have benefit of some external Xmas lights!
That was my original thought - that they had shifted the gamut to aid the AP. However, wouldn’t you want more red shift, incl. infrared? Also, how come we do not have that issue when the car records in sentry mode?
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Chimpy McChimp
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That's a great suggestion thanks. Shame we have to do that but anything to help us appreciated.
Redbaron73
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Just put a Ring Camera up.... they even do battery / solar powered ones...
Chimpy McChimp
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Redbaron73
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you can if you want... but i prefer to mount them on the house / driveway.....
Chimpy McChimp
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Sorry if I'm misunderstanding but how will putting a camera on my house help me reverse?
Chimpy McChimp
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I've thought about that but my experience with solar lights that look decent isn't great. Not helped that most of my drive gets no direct sunlight on the winter months.
Maybe I should look again if they have improved over the years.
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